[Merry Mockmas]

I don't know if I personally like the term "phase" being used for people's feelings about their identity.

And thankfully like Liam has said, people under 18 can't have the surgery anyway, because to me that's a line that should never be crossed.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I don't know if I personally like the term "phase" being used for people's feelings about their identity.

And thankfully like Liam has said, people under 18 can't have the surgery anyway, because to me that's a line that should never be crossed.

They maybe can’t have surgery but they do apparently get given medications that alter their bodies - these changes are reversible.. although the changes to the brain are permanent !!


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[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Zizu

They maybe can’t have surgery but they do apparently get given medications that alter their bodies - these changes are reversible.. although the changes to the brain are permanent !!


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Which is what i was trying to say , but people keep putting their fingers in their ears going "la la la not true la la la they only get it at age 18 la la la " .

I knew they were being given medication/ puberty blockers at a very young age .

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Which is what i was trying to say , but people keep putting their fingers in their ears going "la la la not true la la la they only get it at age 18 la la la " .

I knew they were being given medication/ puberty blockers at a very young age .

Excuse the copy and pasting


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The NHS is thankfully shutting down its gender identity clinic for children at the Tavistock and Portman NHS foundation trust after it was criticised in an independent review.

The Tavistock clinic, named the Gender and Identity Development Service (Gids), was launched more than three decades ago to help children and other young people struggling with their gender identity.

But in recent years, concerns have repeatedly been raised about the service. Inspectors rated it “inadequate” after complaints raised by whistleblowers, patients and families.
The service was criticised for its care of patients both inside and outside the clinic, and it also had record waiting lists. Doctors reported concerns that some patients were referred on to a gender transitioning pathway too quickly.
“The aim is to close the Tavistock clinic [the Gender and Identity Development Service (Gids)] by spring 2023, moving to the new provider model through specialist children hospitals,” a senior NHS source told the Guardian. There will be no immediate changes for patients already under the Tavistock’s care, according to the source. “The children being seen by the Tavistock (and those on waiting lists) will be transferred to a new provider over the course of that time.”

It followed recommendations from Dr Hilary Cass, who is leading an independent review of gender identity services for children and young people.

Yes, an NHS review has found that the drugs that the NHS has been giving to some children may disrupt their brain development and leave them less able to make complex decisions. Those drugs might have long-term consequences for the mental functioning of the children who were given them.
Now, years after their use began, Cass proposes that the NHS undertake serious and systematic research into the use of puberty blockers. Put another way, now that the horse has left the stable and has run*headlong into a brick wall, we’re starting to think about whether bolting the stable door might be a good idea.
This all raises many grim questions. Here are just two. Given the lack of evidence supporting the use of puberty blockers and the volume of concerns raised about their use, why has it taken so long for the uncertainties and risks around their use to be officially recognised? And is there any other context in which the responsible authorities – medical, governmental and political – would have been so slow to intervene over such scandalous disregard for the welfare of children?


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