[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

Liam isn't usually one of the 'usual' suspects I was referring to....and my point was that none of those I was referring to ever offer actual debate or reasoned arguments but instead mainly resort to personal insults to other posters starting from the first page in the thread- as proven by the list I gave you. That a few weren't attacks is irrelevant.
It's blatantly obvious Mock, but if you don't want to take sides, then fair enough.

Meanwhile, the levels of debate or reasoned argument:

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Well Harry what an uncreative title, may have well as called it Tit , suits better.

Originally Posted by jet

SPARE.
It’s £28 a copy to hear ‘Harry’s truth’. It’ll be all over the media anyway for free. If it’s anything like Meghan’s ‘truth’ it will be a load of codswallop.

Apparently he’s taken some bits out, following the Queen’s death, which is why it’s been delayed. He obviously didn’t care about the alive Queen’s reaction to it, but after the shock of seeing how popular the Monarchy are with how the public reacted to the Queen's death, he's running scared, poor thing.

Originally Posted by parmnion

Urgh, hes such an odious prick...sick of the bloody sight of him.

Wonder if he talks about his closeness to uncle andrew..

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I mean just the cover they have airbrushed under his eyes and it makes the image look fake and the only way is essex

who can look at that pic and say - yes that is a good one for the cover

barmy

Originally Posted by rusticgal

What a self pitying title….he has gone from Spare to Sidekick. Will that be the title of a future book??

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Why?
Have they got a wobbly table

I don't know if you seriously think that this is an intellectual debate that's being had, and maybe it was at the beginning, but these are just joke threads these days, and that's not because of any mythical "4 posters", but because of what your side is offering.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Wow what wonderful insight and great addition to the “debate”

All you have in every post is to bleat about haters

you add nothing but anger and bitterness

try adding actual content

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If you weren’t in the thread talking sh1t I wouldn’t have keep addressing your embarrassing lemon sucking posts

Again dude, you're the only person in this thread throwing insults around. On a smaller forum, it isn't going unnoticed

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Originally Posted by jet

SPARE.
It’s £28 a copy to hear ‘Harry’s truth’. It’ll be all over the media anyway for free. If it’s anything like Meghan’s ‘truth’ it will be a load of codswallop.

Apparently he’s taken some bits out, following the Queen’s death, which is why it’s been delayed. He obviously didn’t care about the alive Queen’s reaction to it, but after the shock of seeing how popular the Monarchy are with how the public reacted to the Queen's death, he's running scared, poor thing.

Originally Posted by jet

They have departed company with their publicity team, Sunshine Sachs, who were hired to further their ambitions as a ‘dynamic duo’; the alternative and more popular Royals in the USA and make them loadsa money. After many headaches and getting back the millions the dynamic duo owed them, Sunshine Sachs are breathing a sigh of relief.

Now for the damage control. Their new team is pushing them as wholesome, regular Joe’s, misrepresented and misunderstood. Meghan, in her recent interview, said of their Netflix docuseries that the producers may not present it the way she and Harry would, distancing herself already, and Harry has been begging for parts of his book to be axed, but the publishers may not have agreed with everything he wanted.
It will be the producers and the publishers fault if H&M’s own words and actions aren't well received, naturally.

Originally Posted by Cherie

The title pretty much confirms how narked he is at being the spare, thought he wanted out of all things Royal

Originally Posted by rusticgal

He used to tease William about not having the responsibilities that William was going to have….he needs to make up his mind

Originally Posted by arista

Yes well Over Priced


Harry Got the 15Million Dollars

Only the Proceeds go to Charity

Originally Posted by smudgie

Had an email from hmv that you can preorder for £14.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Horrible title, I agree.

Tbf he might've put in some negative stuff about Elizabeth in the Book that might be seen as in poor taste given that she's only just passed away.

Originally Posted by jet

But he wouldn't mind a frail old lady, his own grandmother, actually reading negative stuff he said about her?
He and Meghan trashed the institution the Queen had given her life to while her husband was on his deathbed.
No Mock, imo he's only worried about how himself and his ghastly wife will be perceived.

Originally Posted by arista

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well I don't know his relationship with some of his other family members, maybe he doesn't care about offending them.

But we all know that he had a good relationship with Elizabeth, he weren't gonna trash her in public when she's dead.

Originally Posted by jet

https://pagesix.com/2022/10/13/princ...adicts-memoir/

Harry & Meghan ‘contradict’ their own stories in his tell-all, Netflix docuseries

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s docu-series will debut on Netflix in early December, multiple sources told Page Six — but there are still lots of conflicts.
Sources said Netflix and the series’ filmmakers were confused by some of the comments that Harry makes in his upcoming book being at odds with what he and his wife said on camera.

“A lot in the show contradicted what Harry has written, so that was an issue,” a senior Netflix source revealed.

“Then Harry and Meghan made significant requests [to filmmakers] to walk back content they themselves have provided, for their own project,” the source added.
—-------------
That’s what happens when you don’t tell the truth. You forget what story you peddled on your last pity party.
The book should have a disclaimer attached like The Crown is now doing, so that the gullible won’t think it’s all real.

Originally Posted by jet

Harry in a 2020 speech to rich bankers JP Morgan.
“I was in therapy for 7 years to to help me deal with my mothers death”.
He said it was William who encouraged him to get it.

Harry last week at the Masters of Scale summit for BetterUp.
“In the Royal family I never heard the word therapy.” It wasn’t until I met Meghan and she encouraged me to get it….

Meghan in a recent podcast:
“I remember at my worst point, (when she said she was suicidal) being finally connected to someone that my husband had found, a referral for me to call.”

Harry on Oprah, when asked what he had done to help Meghan when she was suicidal said
“I didn’t help her, I was too embarrassed to ask for help”.


Confused? You should be. So is Netflix.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Hoisted by their own petard

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The title of the book has sparked reactions from royal commentators.

Angela Levin, royal biographer, suggested the title is a "resentful" Harry
"trying to get his own back" for the cruel jibe separating him from brother
and future monarch William.

She said: "Spare, the title of Harry's book is desperately sad. Is that what he
still thinks of himself? After all the therapy, a wife he worships and freedom
he longed for, he is still full of resentment and out to get his own back. You
can see it in his eyes on the cover."

Journalist Meghan McCain wrote: "I’m not as plugged into this as Brits are
clearly - but the title seems like a troll… Is this your take?"

Another journalist Rupert Myers commented: “Is this the real cover and title?
Good grief.”

“The book is supposed to be about a journey to love and healing but
the title speaks about bitterness and jealousy,” Verdad penned.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/448964-pri...-meghan-markle

Going down a storm and not even out yet...

Originally Posted by Zizu

It’s not that long ago that the world and it’s auntie absolutely LOVED Harry and even forgave his little idiosyncrasies … he can’t have changed that much ..

All that has happened is that everyone has been programmed by the media into believing he is now the son of the devil whilst the real ‘unpleasant’ people like Andrew , Charles and Chlamydia are suddenly appealing and popular .

I bet Di is squirming in her grave as we speak


Bewildering stuff


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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Originally Posted by Swan

Yeah it's been said many times before, i guess from a logical standpoint it's annoying for regular people struggling with everyday life, then you have these 2 whining and preaching about this and that. Often non issues, or issues most other people haven't got room in their heads to worry about as putting food on the table isn't always a guarantee.

They have wealth, and status in life that 99.9% of people will never duplicate, and can only ever dream of. Instead of enjoying it, all they do is complain about it. It's annoying.

I do agree with the "if you stop talking about them they will go away" theory, but it's difficult when they're all over the media. It's kinda like Trump now, people still talk about him in unhealthy doses. But then he is current i guess, whether you like him or not. And for better or worse, so are Harry and Meghan.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the thing is, now the queen has gone, no-one gives a flying **** what he says about the other royals. That's the truth of the matter. Obsessed twats like Piers Morgan will always blow hot air, but the bottom line is ..... no one gives a damn

Originally Posted by jet

It's been over 2 years since the world and its auntie loved Harry. The sad thing is, he HAS changed, enormously. His family, former friends and army mates are worried about him. He has cut himself off from almost all of them.
Denying the change in him without doing research to find out what most people see won't change that fact.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf nobody wants to have their behaviour being scrutinised in public.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The fact that Kate and William are so loved and popular is the real reason behind Harry and his wifes anger

its plain jealousy

Originally Posted by jet

There is no strong debate.
Those of us who don’t like H&M explain why, or post items to back up our thinking. Time after time, the same people come in and offer nothing in the way of giving reasons why they disagree, they just use one liners to mock and insult posters. Whatever happened to the rule ‘talk about the topic, not other posters’.

Here are examples of those one liners from this thread - and there were more along the same lines which were removed:


Can’t stand them but obsessively talk about them at the first opportunity. If you can’t stand them stop talking about them

I’m sure you’ll all let everyone know what’s inside

It’s amazing how triggered y’all are

The only wobbles come from the fanatic mob

We're not interested in this, claim the most interested group of people on the planet

It’s a pity you don’t follow your own advice when it comes to tabloids

Some people have convinced themselves through the lack of their own life's that they know someone else's inside out.

Someone already made this joke yesterday. Do you ever have a thought that's your own
……………………
Where is the debate? Where are the posts in favour of H&M from these usual suspects to balance out the negative views? They are rare. Eventually, the thread descents into chaos, and is closed. They do it time after time.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Thanks for the compliment.

Personally I don't understand the full on dislike of H&M, but it's good to hear why other people do.

Honest advice I can give to people that don't like H&M is to focus on Celebrities that you do like, I've fallen into a similar trap myself with Cheryl Cole years ago, and I ended up driving myself crazy.

I honestly don't mean it as an attack.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Meanwhile, the levels of debate or reasoned argument:
I don't know if you seriously think that this is an intellectual debate that's being had, and maybe it was at the beginning, but these are just joke threads these days, and that's not because of any mythical "4 posters", but because of what your side is offering.

actual content above your post

and look who are missing...

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Thanks for the compliment.

Personally I don't understand the full on dislike of H&M, but it's good to hear why other people do.

Honest advice I can give to people that don't like H&M is to focus on Celebrities that you do like, I've fallen into a similar trap myself with Cheryl Cole years ago, and I ended up driving myself crazy.

I honestly don't mean it as an attack.

It would also be nice to hear why people DO like them....but we never do

[Beso]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

actual content above your post

and look who are missing...

You missed my pride of britain post.

[jet]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

actual content above your post

and look who are missing...

Well said, LT.

There is plenty of scope for people to give their opposing opinions, or at least say why they LIKE H&M, as Rusti pointed out.
H&M threads get many viewers. They are in Serious Debates and NEWS. H&M often put themselves in the NEWS. Harry’s book is NEWS.

As I said before, I’ll never understand why posters who say they have no interest open a thread only to tell other posters why they shouldn’t be posting in them. Not to post about the thread topic, but to mock and get personal with those who are interested and try to derail threads.

Someone who doesn’t dislike H&M is Annie K, who gives her own opinion and opposing views respectfully. A rarity. An example of how it is done.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't know if you seriously think that this is an intellectual debate that's being had, and maybe it was at the beginning, but these are just joke threads these days, and that's not because of any mythical "4 posters", but because of what your side is offering.

It's a news story, I cant see whats to debate about it so what you are saying is pointless.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It’s not that long ago that the world and it’s auntie absolutely LOVED Harry and even forgave his little idiosyncrasies … he can’t have changed that much ..

Bewildering stuff


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I still like Harry .. plus you can’t knock him for falling in love with a gorgeous woman - he’s only human


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[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I still like Harry .. plus you can’t knock him for falling in love with a gorgeous woman - he’s only human


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What do you like about him?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

Well said, LT.

There is plenty of scope for people to give their opposing opinions, or at least say why they LIKE H&M, as Rusti pointed out.
H&M threads get many viewers. They are in Serious Debates and NEWS. H&M often put themselves in the NEWS. Harry’s book is NEWS.

As I said before, I’ll never understand why posters who say they have no interest open a thread only to tell other posters why they shouldn’t be posting in them. Not to post about the thread topic, but to mock and get personal with those who are interested and try to derail threads.

Someone who doesn’t dislike H&M is Annie K, who gives her own opinion and opposing views respectfully. A rarity. An example of how it is done.

There are lots of threads we all wish would have gone differently. Folks have been pointing out for years about how a certain poster has no interest in contributing to any threads other than trolling, and the forum powers weren't interested so I have no idea why you think these threads are a protected class now.

You're patting a dude on the back who brought trans people into practically every thread last night, for no reason other than to try and get a reaction, so instead of acting high and mighty, maybe realise that this is all this place is these days. I haven't insulted anyone (despite being insulted), and I haven't broken any forum rules, so maybe you all need to stop crying, post your own posts, and stop turning into Scarlett O'Hara every time someone who isn't one of your favourites, posts in the same threads as you.

There is no rule on Tibb that you can't put someone on ignore, or just ignore what someone you don't like says. It's really easy.

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

There is no rule on Tibb that you can't put someone on ignore, or just ignore what someone you don't like says. It's really easy.

Right back at ya….and not only can you ignore people - you can ignore threads too. Unlike you, I don’t go into threads I have no interest in or no desire to get involved in just to tell posters who are interested that they shouldn’t be and insult them by childish name calling - like Southern Belles and Scarlett O’Hara's.
Grow up.
...and by the way, I would welcome debate from people who 'aren't my favourites' as you put it. I think of those people as 'thinking differently to the way I do' - that is what debate is all about. Sarky one liners aimed at posters to try and rile them, and ignoring the topic, kill debate.

[Beso]

It is also against the rules to take threads off topic.

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It is also against the rules to take threads off topic.

It used to be. Unfortunately it appears not to be enforced anymore.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by jet

Right back at ya….and not only can you ignore people - you can ignore threads too. Unlike you, I don’t go into threads I have no interest in or no desire to get involved in just to tell posters who are interested that they shouldn’t be and insult them by childish name calling - like Southern Belles and Scarlett O’Hara's.
Grow up.
...and by the way, I would welcome debate from people who 'aren't my favourites' as you put it. I think of those people as 'thinking differently to the way I do' - that is what debate is all about. Sarky one liners aimed at posters to try and rile them, and ignoring the topic, kill debate.

well said Jet

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You're patting a dude on the back who brought trans people into practically every thread last night, for no reason other than to try and get a reaction, so instead of acting high and mighty, maybe realise that this is all this place is these days.

I responded positively to LT in THIS thread. I don't follow him or anyone else around to see what they have posted elsewhere before I can agree with them on a different thread.
Heavens above.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by jet

Right back at ya….and not only can you ignore people - you can ignore threads too. Unlike you, I don’t go into threads I have no interest in or no desire to get involved in just to tell posters who are interested that they shouldn’t be and insult them by childish name calling - like Southern Belles and Scarlett O’Hara's.
Grow up.
...and by the way, I would welcome debate from people who 'aren't my favourites' as you put it. I think of those people as 'thinking differently to the way I do' - that is what debate is all about. Sarky one liners aimed at posters to try and rile them, and ignoring the topic, kill debate.

Well said jet.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

Right back at ya….and not only can you ignore people - you can ignore threads too. Unlike you, I don’t go into threads I have no interest in or no desire to get involved in just to tell posters who are interested that they shouldn’t be and insult them by childish name calling - like Southern Belles and Scarlett O’Hara's.
Grow up.
...and by the way, I would welcome debate from people who 'aren't my favourites' as you put it. I think of those people as 'thinking differently to the way I do' - that is what debate is all about. Sarky one liners aimed at posters to try and rile them, and ignoring the topic, kill debate.

Welcome debate on what? Every single one of these threads has been exactly the same, with exactly the same type of comments

Again, the rules have been laid pretty clearly over the last couple of years by the powers that be in relation to what is allowed on here, so from my pov, there is nothing wrong with following them, which is all I do. I post where I like, about what I like, and when I like. The problem isn't mine to get over. As soon as the forum allowed others to have no interest in posting their own comments or contributing in any way in other SD threads, then the rules were set. I'm sorry if you don't like that, but you only see it when it's posters you don't like and ignore it when it comes from those that want to tell you how good your posts are.

Why am I posting sarky one liners, and yet it's crickets when others you like are actually throwing actual insults around? Please report anything you think is an insult of mine in here, because then mods/admin will read back though and see exactly what happened.


All you had to do was carry on posting your posts, but you couldn't, and now this thread is on it's way to being closed again, too, which is probably the aim, so the same group of you can cry about other posters again.

Seriously, post where you want about what you want, and who cares where others post?

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What is a 40oz and is this a real excerpt because it sounds like parody

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What is a 40oz and is this a real excerpt because it sounds like parody

Bowling is an artform

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What is a 40oz and is this a real excerpt because it sounds like parody

Well if it is from his book he'll be a laughing stock ~ i doubt it is though.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What is a 40oz and is this a real excerpt because it sounds like parody

40oz is a big bottle of beer. Known to be drunk mostly in "hoods"

And yes, it's parody.

[Crimson Dynamo]

he likes to bowl and drink

i wish you haterz would cut him some slack??

[Crimson Dynamo]

irrational