[pontooner]

Well that was a pile of...

On the dance-off, I thought Will edged it, Fleur's Charleston was better last night. But really, and I know its not his fault, Hamza is being shoved through every week and I've a real downer on him because of it. He's just bang average; reasonable at the latins, good timing out of hold and clearly strong enough to pull off some decent lifts (but so are lots of male celebs) but he's not a ballroom dancer of any merit and well outclassed by Will in that respect.

Molly is the best dancer and deserves to win it. I got what was said about Carlos above though. It's his first year and he reminds me of Graziano in his first year - sometimes forgetting his job is to show off the celeb follower and not make the dance about himself.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by pontooner

Well that was a pile of...

On the dance-off, I thought Will edged it, Fleur's Charleston was better last night. But really, and I know its not his fault, Hamza is being shoved through every week and I've a real downer on him because of it. He's just bang average; reasonable at the latins, good timing out of hold and clearly strong enough to pull off some decent lifts (but so are lots of male celebs) but he's not a ballroom dancer of any merit and well outclassed by Will in that respect.

Molly is the best dancer and deserves to win it. I got what was said about Carlos above though. It's his first year and he reminds me of Graziano in his first year - sometimes forgetting his job is to show off the celeb follower and not make the dance about himself.

Tbh as someone that actually likes Fleur on Strictly, I do feel like it's a disgrace that the judges sent someone home when it's been his first time in the bottom two at the top 5, at that point I honestly feel like the dance-off shouldn't even matter and that the integrity of the competition actually feeling like a competition is more important.

And you're assessment of Hamza I feel is very fair, and I personally feel like he hasn't had a good dance in weeks, he is literally living off the Salsa dance all of the way back in week 4, and to a lesser extent his Couples Choice.

The public basically aren't flexible and are gonna stick with Hamza or Helen regardless of how they dance, or how Molly and Fleur dance, which is a huge problem for the Show because it makes watching certain performances pointless if the public don't even care about the performance. It's basically the same flaw that TXF had, especially in the later years.

And with Molly I agree that she's a very good dancer, her Paso especially was very good on Sunday, however she sadly does occasionally get sabotaged with horrible choreography on certain nights, which sadly has probably hampered her vote to some extent.

And Fleur is weird, she gets second on a singing contest when she can't sing, but struggles really badly in the vote on Strictly when she's delivered some of the most memorable dances of the series, you just can't make it up.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbh as someone that actually likes Fleur on Strictly, I do feel like it's a disgrace that the judges sent someone home when it's been his first time in the bottom two at the top 5, at that point I honestly feel like the dance-off shouldn't even matter and that the integrity of the competition actually feeling like a competition is more important.

And you're assessment of Hamza I feel is very fair, and I personally feel like he hasn't had a good dance in weeks, he is literally living off the Salsa dance all of the way back in week 4, and to a lesser extent his Couples Choice.

The public basically aren't flexible and are gonna stick with Hamza or Helen regardless of how they dance, or how Molly and Fleur dance, which is a huge problem for the Show because it makes watching certain performances pointless if the public don't even care about the performance. It's basically the same flaw that TXF had, especially in the later years.

And with Molly I agree that she's a very good dancer, her Paso especially was very good on Sunday, however she sadly does occasionally get sabotaged with horrible choreography on certain nights, which sadly has probably hampered her vote to some extent.

And Fleur is weird, she gets second on a singing contest when she can't sing, but struggles really badly in the vote on Strictly when she's delivered some of the most memorable dances of the series, you just can't make it up.

with this sort of weird public taste i even can do well with them


rather Hamza than Helen as the winner pls, jeez if Helen wins, how low the level of love for dance has sunk with the public Helen can't dance, just unfortunate she is a presenter with a long career

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbh as someone that actually likes Fleur on Strictly, I do feel like it's a disgrace that the judges sent someone home when it's been his first time in the bottom two at the top 5, at that point I honestly feel like the dance-off shouldn't even matter and that the integrity of the competition actually feeling like a competition is more important.

And you're assessment of Hamza I feel is very fair, and I personally feel like he hasn't had a good dance in weeks, he is literally living off the Salsa dance all of the way back in week 4, and to a lesser extent his Couples Choice.

The public basically aren't flexible and are gonna stick with Hamza or Helen regardless of how they dance, or how Molly and Fleur dance, which is a huge problem for the Show because it makes watching certain performances pointless if the public don't even care about the performance. It's basically the same flaw that TXF had, especially in the later years.

And with Molly I agree that she's a very good dancer, her Paso especially was very good on Sunday, however she sadly does occasionally get sabotaged with horrible choreography on certain nights, which sadly has probably hampered her vote to some extent.

And Fleur is weird, she gets second on a singing contest when she can't sing, but struggles really badly in the vote on Strictly when she's delivered some of the most memorable dances of the series, you just can't make it up.

I personally think Fleur CAN sing ,and she was an excellent performer aswell on XF ...but we have different opinions.

But I agree about it not being fair that she's been in the dance off so many times, despite having memorable fantastic dances & routines.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Christmas Lights

I personally think Fleur CAN sing ,and she was an excellent performer aswell on XF ...but we have different opinions.

But I agree about it not being fair that she's been in the dance off so many times, despite having memorable fantastic dances & routines.

Maybe I did word it harshly looking back at the post.

What I mean is that she's a much better dancer, yet the public keep dropping her in the bottom two, it's really bizarre.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Maybe I did word it harshly looking back at the post.

What I mean is that she's a much better dancer, yet the public keep dropping her in the bottom two, it's really bizarre.

people just need to vote right, how difficult can voting correct be


Fleur and Molly tower above Hamza and Helen as the far superior dancers

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

people just need to vote right, how difficult can voting correct be


Fleur and Molly tower above Hamza and Helen as the far superior dancers

I mean tbf people can vote however they want to.

It's just when the standards for good dancing drops, the public will only have themselves to blame.