[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

True but its his blood money that made them what they are.

Agreed.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Agreed.

Slim, only a few weeks ago you were happy to have blood money purchase Liverpool if it were to change their current piss poor performances too, don't throw stones and all that.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

Slim, only a few weeks ago you were happy to have blood money purchase Liverpool if it were to change their current piss poor performances too, don't throw stones and all that.

Eh? Liverpool built themselves up to where they are, we didn't get there from a stimulus package as we were about to go out of business due to not being able to pay the bills. The 2 clubs are not the same.

Even our recent title was won on a budget.

[The Slim Reaper]

That's what I actually wrote. You must know I hate united more than any other team, but I'd still rather go back to pre-Roman days of united dominating with their money, because they earned every penny of it.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I'd rather go back to man u being the most dominant financial team in the league, and us being 2nd/3rd, because at least then you have a chance. But these oil money teams are just on a different level. City don't sell out their ground at times and still rake in more sponsorship money than anyone else because of their honest guv, it's all above board sponsorship deals.

What Klopp has done these last 6 years is perhaps the most historic run in league history. Won every trophy in the game, 3 year run of 97/99 points, and all on a smaller budget than Brighton, but none of that would have happened without Barca injecting 142m into the team for Coutinho. Chelsea have spent more in 6 months than we have in the last 10 transfer windows combined, and they were going into administration before Roman came in, so if you want to compete at the top of the league, this is what you have to have behind you these days, and that's depressing.

I saw this coming a mile off and pointed out in 19 that this was all built on sand. I don't think we'll end up with oil money anyway. I wouldn't put it past FSG to screw us over with more Americans. If there is any chance in the world that LFC can screw this up, they absolutely will. Had the chance to get Dubai in 05/06 - which is the most sanitised version of mid east money possible (tourism), but we backed out and sold to owners who nearly put us into admin.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Eh? Liverpool built themselves up to where they are, we didn't get there from a stimulus package as we were about to go out of business due to not being able to pay the bills. The 2 clubs are not the same.

Even our recent title was won on a budget.

Point is, you were saying only the other day you didn't care who owned Liverpool as long as they pumped money into the club..

"half times beheadings in the centre circle" (i know you wasn't serious, but you must get my point)

And the game has changed since then, it's more a money business now than ever.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

Point is, you were saying only the other day you didn't care who owned Liverpool as long as they pumped money into the club..

"half times beheadings in the centre circle" (i know you wasn't serious, but you must get my point)

And the game has changed since then, it's more a money business now than ever.

Come on, dude, you used a joke I made, knowing it was a joke. You can tell my serious opinion in the post above. Football is the way it is today because of Roman. Maybe if he didn't buy chelsea, a couple of years later, some other billionaire would have pumped money into a club and then football would have been the way it is because of him, instead. I know we're all protective of our clubs, but you have to be realistic. He was the first, so he gets the blame. It's not a personal vendetta against Chelsea.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

And you got it only three times out of the seven

Doesn't change the fact you're completely wrong about Chelsea being a team finishing in 10th before Roman.

The "Italian Connection" changed Chelsea's fortunes in the mid to late 90's.

Know your facts before talking utter sh!te and being wrong next time..

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Come on, dude, you used a joke I made, knowing it was a joke. You can tell my serious opinion in the post above. Football is the way it is today because of Roman. Maybe if he didn't buy chelsea, a couple of years later, some other billionaire would have pumped money into a club and then football would have been the way it is because of him, instead. I know we're all protective of our clubs, but you have to be realistic. He was the first, so he gets the blame. It's not a personal vendetta against Chelsea.

Things change, that's life, that's business. And no club, barring the odd one off season, were ever going to challenge Utd or Arsenal, or even Liverpool when it came to overseas money back then. Big money for "lesser" teams, teams almost but not quite there was actually a good thing for football imo. And also, Chelsea didn't actually change their team that much in Roman's first season. The foundation was already built before Roman and Jose.

I just think it's bollocks how everyone gets on their moral high horse when it comes to Chelsea.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

Doesn't change the fact you're completely wrong about Chelsea being a team finishing in 10th before Roman.

The "Italian Connection" changed Chelsea's fortunes in the mid to late 90's.

Know your facts before talking utter sh!te and being wrong next time..



Things change, that's life, that's business. And no club, barring the odd one off season, were ever going to challenge Utd or Arsenal, or even Liverpool when it came to overseas money back then. Big money for "lesser" teams, teams almost but not quite there was actually a good thing for football imo. And also, Chelsea didn't actually change their team that much in Roman's first season. The foundation was already built before Roman and Jose.

I just think it's bollocks how everyone gets on their moral high horse when it comes to Chelsea.

It's not Chelsea, it's roman. That was my point about no one challenging united - they earned all of that right, they were marketing geniuses as soon as they started winning, they had sponsors on everything. and were raking it in. That's how a successful businesses should be. I'd hate to see united on 30 league titles and 10 CL's but they earned it, they didn't take shortcuts.

Chelsea spent £150m in his first transfer window, back in 03/04, so no need to rewrite history

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Swan

Doesn't change the fact you're completely wrong about Chelsea being a team finishing in 10th before Roman.

The "Italian Connection" changed Chelsea's fortunes in the mid to late 90's.

Know your facts before talking utter sh!te and being wrong next time..

You won the premier league/first division one time before the blood money.