[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

When the hell did I ever say I supported John Major??? ,you already know where I stand politically. I will NEVER support the conservatives. But overall my views are more moderate liberal centre.

You can assume I hate trans people all you want, you're just proving my point ...when someone has a different opinion to you ,then you accuse them of hating an entire community, abuse gets thrown at women .....words like "terf" just for acknowledging biology and wanting to protect other women . This is why we're just going backwards ...and will continue to go backwards. This is NOT progressive AT ALL .

You said in the other thread that you liked the moderate right (aka John Major). Everything you don't like is far left from the little I read your posts, but far left is communism. Trans people weren't a consideration during the Bolshevik revolution. Corbyn is a democratic socialist who supports trans rights, so no, neither of us have any idea where you stand politically. You use woke far left as a pejorative, and then you link trans rights to the far left, which sort of puts yourself in the space of using slurs to describe anyone who supports trans people. It shows that you're regurgitating, not actually understanding what you're saying.

Every attempt to step on a minority group always starts and ends with the pretense of protecting the larger group, when both groups can be lifted up and protected at the same time if we work together.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You said in the other thread that you liked the moderate right (aka John Major). Everything you don't like is far left from the little I read your posts, but far left is communism. Trans people weren't a consideration during the Bolshevik revolution. Corbyn is a democratic socialist who supports trans rights, so no, neither of us have any idea where you stand politically. You use woke far left as a pejorative, and then you link trans rights to the far left, which sort of puts yourself in the space of using slurs to describe anyone who supports trans people. It shows that you're regurgitating, not actually understanding what you're saying.

Every attempt to step on a minority group always starts and ends with the pretense of protecting the larger group, when both groups can be lifted up and protected at the same time if we work together.

Wow help us all !!! no what I said was I found myself agreeing more with the moderate right wing , but I do NOT agree with everything the right wing says. You know I DON'T support this government NEVER have & NEVER will.


I was a Corbyn supporter at the time,and I wanted him to be the PM of this country,we will never know now ...how he would have coped with all the challenges & issues out there. But I think he would have tried his best ,and maybe made some mistakes as he's human.

You basically twist everything for your own agenda, what slurs was used? ....if you're offended by 'woke' & 'far left' ...then that's amusing when you've been more condescending and rude towards me anyway . And when did I condone 'stepping on minority communities ' ?? .

It's not difficult to understand, I use to be very left wing , and I've never and will never be right wing . I'm in the centre .

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Wow help us all !!! no what I said was I found myself agreeing more with the moderate right wing , but I do NOT agree with everything the right wing says. You know I DON'T support this government NEVER have & NEVER will.


I was a Corbyn supporter at the time,and I wanted him to be the PM of this country,we will never know now ...how he would have coped with all the challenges & issues out there. But I think he would have tried his best ,and maybe made some mistakes as he's human.

You basically twist everything for your own agenda, what slurs was used? ....if you're offended by 'woke' & 'far left' ...then that's amusing when you've been more condescending and rude towards me anyway . And when did I condone 'stepping on minority communities ' ?? .

It's not difficult to understand, I use to be very left wing , and I've never and will never be right wing . I'm in the centre .

I guess saying "you go girl with the wokey far left chat" has somehow been twisted into I'm offended. As I pointed out, it just reveals you're regurgitating, not understanding the terms you're using. It's no more than a meme at this point.

Where did I say you condone stepping on minority communities?

Everything I've said in this thread has been explained.

[Cherry Christmas]

The title should read rapist male posing as transgender woman gets put in women’s prison due to gaping loophole in self ID that affects women’s only places which woman have being pointing out for years but whose concerns have been ignored by everyone including by the judge in the case because of worriy about how it might look and how it might impact career progression ..woman are just collateral damage these days and that is from both sides left and right

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The title should read rapist male posing as transgender woman gets put in women’s prison due to gaping loophole in self ID that affects women’s only places which woman having being pointing out for years but whose concerns have been ignored by everyone including by the judge in the case because of worriy about how it might look and how it might impact career progression ..woman are just collateral damage these days and that is from both sides left and right

Not often that I don't have anything much to add Cherie but this is pretty comprehensive.

What I find staggering is that people who are generally reasonable and rational will still;

- refuse to acknowledge that too much has been done too quickly, overlooking any safeguarding concerns.

- refuse to acknowledge that the tonne of bricks that's been brought down on women for pointing out concerns is absolutely DRENCHED in misogyny

- refuse to tap the brakes no matter how many indications there are that the ideology needs to slow down

... And it's all for fear of seeming like a "bad ally" or out of worry that budging an inch risks "aligning with bigots".

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The title should read rapist male posing as transgender woman gets put in women’s prison due to gaping loophole in self ID that affects women’s only places which woman have being pointing out for years but whose concerns have been ignored by everyone including by the judge in the case because of worriy about how it might look and how it might impact career progression ..woman are just collateral damage these days and that is from both sides left and right

Exactly.

And I don't like the "but criminals will find away to attack women anyway" attitude. Why should it be made easier for them? Why do women have to give up our safe guards? There needs to be another way to protect vulnerable transwomen without using women as a human shield.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly.

And I don't like the "but criminals will find away to attack women anyway" attitude. Why should it be made easier for them? Why do women have to give up our safe guards? There needs to be another way to protect vulnerable transwomen without using women as a human shield.

Thats like saying don’t bother locking your door at night because criminals will come in the window, most are opportunists and will take the easy option of walking through the open door

[The Slim Reaper]

Who are generally considered the criminals in this situation?

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I guess saying "you go girl with the wokey far left chat" has somehow been twisted into I'm offended. As I pointed out, it just reveals you're regurgitating, not understanding the terms you're using. It's no more than a meme at this point.

Where did I say you condone stepping on minority communities?

Everything I've said in this thread has been explained.

Oh and just so you know I never voted for BREXIT either ....I voted to REMAIN .