[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The faux outrage is really tiring now

not as much as the lack of evidence

not that you would ever have any

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

You’re also born trans, just as you’re born lgb as well

You CANNOT compare it with being deaf ! ,come on now.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

not as much as the lack of evidence

not that you would ever have any

Again. The faux outrage and obvious trolling is tiring

[Jordan.]

The Sims has had LGBT representation in their games since the year 2000. It's cute it's taken the right wing 23 years to catch up

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Again. The faux outrage and obvious trolling is tiring

again so is lack of evidence to back up your faux stance

im afraid you cant get away with this

unless you have a cunning plan?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You CANNOT compare it with being deaf ! ,come on now.

You said it’s different because people can be born deaf, well people are born trans but you want them to hide away what makes them them, would you ever suggest a deaf person hide their hearing aides if they want to ‘blend in’? I’d like to think you wouldn’t, but after your recent turn, I’m not so sure

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Again. The faux outrage and obvious trolling is tiring

The trolling of this forum used to be mildly amusing at times, but it’s developed into such a dark thing these days, its just been allowed to sink to the lowest levels

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

You said it’s different because people can be born deaf, well people are born trans but you want them to hide away what makes them them, would you ever suggest a deaf person hide their hearing aides if they want to ‘blend in’? I’d like to think you wouldn’t, but after your recent turn, I’m not so sure

My "recent turn" what's that supposed to mean.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The trolling of this forum used to be mildly amusing at times, but it’s developed into such a dark thing these days, its just been allowed to sink to the lowest levels

attack the members

dont provide any argument

its sweet for the lonesome 3

you used to have some many cheerleaders

now you dont

and its scary being all on your own



lol

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and its scary being all on your own

You remind us every day.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

again so is lack of evidence to back up your faux stance

im afraid you cant get away with this

unless you have a cunning plan?

You’re a grown man who I’m guessing has never played the sims. Your extreme over the top discussion of the game is just…absurd

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

You remind us every day.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

My "recent turn" what's that supposed to mean.

I think he's referring to when you stopped slagging off the right wing trolls in my PM's and became one.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I think he's referring to when you stopped slagging off the right wing trolls in my PM's and became one.

It's hilarious that you think I'm right wing ....you
hardcore lefties always do that with anyone who disagrees with you .

Atleast the moderate conservatives makes good points , doesn't mean I agree with everything they say. And I will never be a Tory supporter.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

EVIDENCE?

To be fair, it's hard to prove the cause of any mental disorder. Gender dysphoria and body dysmorphia, along with eating disorders could all be caused by social factors etc, or they could be caused something misfiring in the head somewhere.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

You’re also born trans, just as you’re born lgb as well

To be fair, with the quite large number who experiment with changing gender in their early teens only to ultimately settle on remaining their biological sex after a couple of years, I don't see how this can possibly be the case. Even just logically it's not possible for it to be the case because gender norms are a sociological construct... You can't be born into them...

[GoldHeart]

I truly believe the rise in in trans & non binary is because of social media . I think a few of these kids would have been emo or goth , there's a few of them that are wearing these labels like a trend & accessory...and will likely grow out of it .

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

You’re a grown man who I’m guessing has never played the sims. Your extreme over the top discussion of the game is just…absurd

unlike you i have 3 kids

you dont

i rest my case

and your little euro man bag

[Glenn.]

LT confirming he plays the sims?

A tad embarrassing even for him

[parmnion]

Detachable penis for ken dolls next.

[Mystic Mock]

Is this really that big of an issue?

Just don't play as a Transgender character if you don't want to and move on, or play as a Transgender character if you want to play as a Transgender character.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Is this really that big of an issue?

Just don't play as a Transgender character if you don't want to and move on, or play as a Transgender character if you want to play as a Transgender character.

I genuinely don't think there's an issue with any of it other than the top scars and breast binding. Believe it or not - especially the breast binding. There are clear & very real health risks associated with it and normalising it for young girls, even in a game, is really questionable. In terms of the scarring, again a mastectomy is major, irreversible and life-altering surgery that shouldn't be normalised as something as simple as getting braces for your teeth or even cosmetic surgery like a nose job. It just kind of trivialises something that isn't trivial at all.

[LeatherTrumpet]

[Soldier Boy]

I do find there to be rather a lot of hypocrisy that the same people who will quip "Yuck why are you cis perverts all OBSESSED with genitals" will in the next breath unironically say "Ooh yay The Sims have shapewear now so you can make it look like they have different genitals through their clothes!" .

Like I don't even particularly have an issue with people taking either stance or making either point... but what sort of mental hoops does one have to jump through to hold BOTH positions? To seemingly believe that genitals are simultaneously all-important, but also, not important at all.