[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Yes I agree on that and that the hijacking is ultimately on both sides as well. I do see & accept that the most recent, and rather worrying, development is that religious fundamentalists have very much reared their heads in the debate and of course, when it comes down to it, the last thing that group is interested in is women's rights (or anyone elses).

But just as disingenuous individuals use of Trans Rights dogma as protection from scrutiny doesn't mean that all trans people are dangerous, the presence of the hard right and religious groups hopping onto the "other side" doesn't mean that there aren't people with real, valid and reasonable safeguarding concerns.

The blatantl hypocrisy though is the anti-trans lot wanting lgbt people to publicly condemn all the hijackers and publicly speak out against them and make amends for behaviours that aren’t their own, but absolutely refuse to speak out themselves about the very obvious coattail riders that are the religious nutjobs and outright bigots that are becoming the faces and the voices of the movement, camouflaging as people that have actual concerns, if you’re happy to accept those people into the movement and let them represent you, you have no right to expect the other side to apologise for the fringe people on their side and that’s what’s happening