[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

If the kid had ENTERED his house or was trying to force the door open then he would likely not be prosecuted, but even in the US you can't shoot someone just for walking up to a door and knocking on it.

You can shoot someone if they are on your porch in American

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

If you're scared you don't open the door. Simple.

At the old age of 85,
always open the door.

But ready with a Gun

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You can shoot someone if they are on your porch in American

This is just straight up false. Even in texas (which has the most liberal "stand your ground" laws) you can only defend when threatened, and then only with proportionate force (i.e. you can only shoot to kill someone if you have good reason to believe they're going to try to kill or severely harm you).

There's nowhere in the US where you can shoot someone on your porch just because they're there.

The reason you can (in some states) pretty much always do it if someone forces entry to your home, is because it's reasonable to assume that if someone has forced their way into your house then they are a clear risk to your personal safety.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

This is just straight up false. Even in texas (which has the most liberal "stand your ground" laws) you can only defend when threatened, and then only with proportionate force (i.e. you can only shoot to kill someone if you have good reason to believe they're going to try to kill or severely harm you).

There's nowhere in the US where you can shoot someone on your porch just because they're there.

No it’s not because I’ve seen an actual case
Guy shot and killed Simone who was on his porch and didn’t get prosecuted

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

No it’s not because I’ve seen an actual case
Guy shot and killed Simone who was on his porch and didn’t get prosecuted

but wasnt that the one where it was his daughters ex and he tried to break in the door so the dad rightly shot him?

[Livia]

You can shoot someone on your porch in Texas if you believe your life is at risk. Missouri has a "stand your ground" law which is similar. Not that I think for one minute this kid was anything but innocent.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

No it’s not because I’ve seen an actual case
Guy shot and killed Simone who was on his porch and didn’t get prosecuted

I think there's probably more cases like this , but they don't all get in the media. I wouldn't want to live in America tbh.

[arista]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I think there's probably more cases like this , but they don't all get in the media. I wouldn't want to live in America tbh.

America Is Fine
so long as you know the rules.

[Alf]

And this is how it goes down in gun free zones in Democrat run cities.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Alf

And this is how it goes down in gun free zones in Democrat run cities.

The sad thing is I'm not even shocked, I knew this happened more frequently.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Alf

And this is how it goes down in gun free zones in Democrat run cities.

sickening

[Barry.]

So sad.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Honestly we often think of the US and UK as being similar but the idea of people opening their front door with a gun in their hand in this country is so unthinkable ... yet it's a cultural norm in the states (or many of them, anyway). I doubt anything will ever meaningfully change though.

We're more culturally similar to Europe than the basketcase that's America imo.

Their obsession with guns will always be a mystery to me.

[arista]

The young kid
has now been allowed to go home,
that's good.

[UserSince2005]

You’ve got to be careful in america. It’s no joke. Parents need to educate their kids that they can’t just be going knocking on random peoples doors. What if the guy was a pedophile, this kid might have never seen the light of day again.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

The young kid
has now been allowed to go home,
that's good.

It's fantastic news to hear.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

You’ve got to be careful in america. It’s no joke. Parents need to educate their kids that they can’t just be going knocking on random peoples doors. What if the guy was a pedophile, this kid might have never seen the light of day again.

He thought he was picking up his siblings, be didn't intend to go to a random door.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

He thought he was picking up his siblings, be didn't intend to go to a random door.

Do you know that to be true or is that just one side of the story?

The strangest thing about all this is that Biden invited the kid and his family to the White House. Looks to me like it's being used to push a political agenda.

[arista]

['I was always scared of him...
it doesn't surprise me what happened':
Ex-wife of homeowner Andrew Lester, 84,
accused of shooting Ralph Yarl, 16,
claims he would rage and smash up their
house during 14-year marriage

Ex-wife Mary Clayton, 81, has three children
with Andrew Lester, 84,
Lester appeared in court accused of
shooting 16-year-old Ralph Yarl]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-violent.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

The little kid has been invited to the white house

Number of families from the Nashville shooting invited? - zero

why?

@too white..dont fit the narrative

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The little kid has been invited to the white house

Number of families from the Nashville shooting invited? - zero

why?

@too white..dont fit the narrative

Tbf he is just a kid so its a treat ..

[Oliver_W]

His family gets a nice day out, Biden gets to sniff children look like he cares. In the grand scheme, who cares.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

['I was always scared of him...
it doesn't surprise me what happened':
Ex-wife of homeowner Andrew Lester, 84,
accused of shooting Ralph Yarl, 16,
claims he would rage and smash up their
house during 14-year marriage

Ex-wife Mary Clayton, 81, has three children
with Andrew Lester, 84,
Lester appeared in court accused of
shooting 16-year-old Ralph Yarl]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-violent.html

That's just pure propaganda and has nothing to do with this case. It's that pure propaganda that raises my suspicions that there's a certain agenda being pushed here.

Once you know the signs, it's easy to see. Ten years ago I wouldn't have noticed this stuff, I'd have fell for it too, but I've learnt so much of how it all works since then.

[Crimson Dynamo]

still at least Biden did not invite a man dressed as a woman for likes on tiktok for dollars to visit.. and ignore anyone else who did not tick a left wing gender war figure..that would be mental

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

That's just pure propaganda and has nothing to do with this case. It's that pure propaganda that raises my suspicions that there's a certain agenda being pushed here.

Once you know the signs, it's easy to see. Ten years ago I wouldn't have noticed this stuff, I'd have fell for it too, but I've learnt so much of how it all works since then.

What propaganda are they pushing by talking about a 16 year old being shot?