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People who identify as trans have a high co-morbodity rate with other mental disorders, and there's also a correlation with sexual abuse, particularly with girls who identify as boys or nonbinary.
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"Transgender activists are outraged that Twitter has quietly removed restrictions
on 'dead-naming' and misgendering people




Transgender activists and their allies are expressing outrage after restrictions
on "dead-naming" and misgendering were deleted from Twitter's Terms of
Service.

The policy was enacted in 2018 before tech billionaire Elon Musk bought the
popular platform for $44 billion. On Sunday, Musk opined that declarations of
preferred pronouns were "virtue-signaling" that could be used as a shield by
bad people.

Two days later, the policy against misgendering was changed.

Sarah Kate Ellis, the president and CEO of GLAAD, told the Associated Press
that the change in policy would lead to violence against transgender people.

“Twitter’s decision to covertly roll back its longtime policy is the latest
example of just how unsafe the company is for users and advertisers alike,”
said Ellis.

“This decision to roll back LGBTQ safety pulls Twitter even more out of step
with TikTok, Pinterest, and Meta, which all maintain similar policies to protect
their transgender users at a time when anti-transgender rhetoric online is
leading to real-world discrimination and violence," she added.

Others attacked Twitter with their tweets.

"Twitter lifts it's policy on targeted misgendering and deadnaming and the
freaks are out gleefully misgendering and deadnaming every prominent trans
person as an achievement. It's not about speech, it's about bullies wanting
to harass people because of who they are," said activist Alejandra Caraballo.

"Every decision Musk makes is bad for free speech, safety, business," tweeted attorney Nora Benavidez.

"This is absolutely exhausting. Every day something else happens to show
just how much people despise trans people and don’t care about what
happens to us and it’s really *******ing overwhelming and frightening," said a rather hysterical user who identifies as a bisexual.

At least one other account called the policy change a "genocidal move."

Some public schools have changed their policies to include dead-naming and
misgendering as "slurs" and threatened to suspend students who refuse to
follow the new rules.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/transg...ring-activists
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"Unsafe"
"Genocidal"



Are tranners like fairies from Peter Pan, where they die if you don't believe in them?
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Are tranners like fairies from Peter Pan, where they die if you don't believe in them?
Lmao......
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["Every decision Musk makes is bad for free speech, safety, business,"
tweeted attorney Nora Benavidez.]

That's the Right Way.
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"Genocidal"

The idea tends to be (not just with trans, with lots of the new identity politics/dogma) that if people don't validate and confirm the beliefs of others and question their reality, and that causes a break in their cognitive dissonance that leads to them harming themselves, then that action is akin to assault and/or murder.

The logic is flimsy at best and flat out dangerous if taken to an extreme.
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I think you should rename this thread as Trangenders at War
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I think you should rename this thread as Trangenders at War
Its become a parody title tbh
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Do you have anything to say about the woman assaulted in a female shelter ......by a man pretending to be a woman??.
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"Transgender activists are outraged that Twitter has quietly removed restrictions
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Transgender activists and their allies are expressing outrage after restrictions
on "dead-naming" and misgendering were deleted from Twitter's Terms of
Service.

The policy was enacted in 2018 before tech billionaire Elon Musk bought the
popular platform for $44 billion. On Sunday, Musk opined that declarations of
preferred pronouns were "virtue-signaling" that could be used as a shield by
bad people.

Two days later, the policy against misgendering was changed.

Sarah Kate Ellis, the president and CEO of GLAAD, told the Associated Press
that the change in policy would lead to violence against transgender people.

“Twitter’s decision to covertly roll back its longtime policy is the latest
example of just how unsafe the company is for users and advertisers alike,”
said Ellis.

“This decision to roll back LGBTQ safety pulls Twitter even more out of step
with TikTok, Pinterest, and Meta, which all maintain similar policies to protect
their transgender users at a time when anti-transgender rhetoric online is
leading to real-world discrimination and violence," she added.

Others attacked Twitter with their tweets.

"Twitter lifts it's policy on targeted misgendering and deadnaming and the
freaks are out gleefully misgendering and deadnaming every prominent trans
person as an achievement. It's not about speech, it's about bullies wanting
to harass people because of who they are," said activist Alejandra Caraballo.

"Every decision Musk makes is bad for free speech, safety, business," tweeted attorney Nora Benavidez.

"This is absolutely exhausting. Every day something else happens to show
just how much people despise trans people and don’t care about what
happens to us and it’s really *******ing overwhelming and frightening," said a rather hysterical user who identifies as a bisexual.

At least one other account called the policy change a "genocidal move."

Some public schools have changed their policies to include dead-naming and
misgendering as "slurs" and threatened to suspend students who refuse to
follow the new rules.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/transg...ring-activists
Tbf why do people want to be an asshole by dead naming or misgendering on purpose? Even if you don't agree with their view about how they see themselves, it is just about being respectful towards other people.

And look I get you might accidentally misgender someone, and that's fine because you're not being an asshole towards someone deliberately.
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There are definitely people out there that would gladly harm Transpeople.

There are extremes on both sides of this topic.
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Tbf why do people want to be an asshole by dead naming or misgendering on purpose?
because its all made up BS mock

If i told you if criticised Villa its called "Villafying"
and then told you you were a villaphobe

would you stop?

its a tactic to shut down an argument

its means NOTHING
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because its all made up BS mock

If i told you if criticised Villa its called "Villafying"
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would you stop?

its a tactic to shut down an argument

its means NOTHING
Disliking or liking a Football team isn't being disrespectful towards how someone identifies though.

And I'm not saying that anyone has to even like the Trans community (or any community for that matter) I just don't support deliberately being provocative towards them, like some of these people know that deadnaming is going to upset them which has me question why anyone would want to do that? Even if you don't like them when has it become okay to upset people just because you don't like them?

I'm not saying you as in you LT, I mean you as the general anti-Trans movement.

And look I don't support everything on the LGBTQ side of the debate, like I don't see J.K Rowling as the next Hitler, and the Trigender lady on your Woke Awareness thread was someone that I personally can't even comprehend, but I won't support deliberately upsetting them for no reason other than to be provocative.
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Do you have anything to say about the woman assaulted in a female shelter ......by a man pretending to be a woman??.
He didn’t answer when I asked for his opinion on the man that raped a woman then claimed to be a woman at his trial

Some one like him does more harm than good to the trans community
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Tbf why do people want to be an asshole by dead naming or misgendering on purpose? Even if you don't agree with their view about how they see themselves, it is just about being respectful towards other people.

And look I get you might accidentally misgender someone, and that's fine because you're not being an asshole towards someone deliberately.
If a man wants to pretend to be a woman, then that's up to him.

If that man wants us to pretend that he's a woman, then that's up to us.

You seem to be advocating for forced compliance by trying to shame people as assholes if the don't comply.

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If a man wants to pretend to be a woman, then that's up to him.

If that man wants us to pretend that he's a woman, then that's up to us.

You seem to be advocating for forced compliance by trying to shame people as assholes if the don't comply.
I'm saying that deliberately misgendering or deadnaming people just to be offensive is being an asshole.

If you have a fair point to be made like the Sports or the Toilets then a debate can be had that isn't being an asshole and isn't "forced compliance" which is never something I'd advocate anyway as that's bringing law enforcement into the equation, which I don't support for saying something that I don't agree with, I prefer to have a debate like we're having now.
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From the original Op post i do fully support the trans community and believe people should have the freedom to be whatever gender or sexuality they are without prejudice. However I do believe there should be pyschological safeguards in place for any trans person wanting to undergo physical change by surgery or medication as these processes are irreversible. I know a lot of young people who have wanted to transition , only to discover later on that this was not their actual issue. I also have a family member who was clinical pyschologist who has had many patients wanting to detransition after starting transition, so there does need to be safeguarding in place.
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He didn’t answer when I asked for his opinion on the man that raped a woman then claimed to be a woman at his trial

Some one like him does more harm than good to the trans community
I think most of us are on his ignore list , which is fine ... it just proves my point that we'll never be able to discuss these issues like adults.
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From the original Op post i do fully support the trans community and believe people should have the freedom to be whatever gender or sexuality they are without prejudice. However I do believe there should be pyschological safeguards in place for any trans person wanting to undergo physical change by surgery or medication as these processes are irreversible. I know a lot of young people who have wanted to transition , only to discover later on that this was not their actual issue. I also have a family member who was clinical pyschologist who has had many patients wanting to detransition after starting transition, so there does need to be safeguarding in place.
They shouldn't transition until they're 18 and even then they might still be unsure it's what they really want , and i agree about the safeguarding being in place. People these days rush too much into these decisions. When it's not just going to the salon for a new hair do ..... this is a life altering procedure that's irreversible like you say.
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I'm saying that deliberately misgendering or deadnaming people just to be offensive is being an asshole.

If you have a fair point to be made like the Sports or the Toilets then a debate can be had that isn't being an asshole and isn't "forced compliance" which is never something I'd advocate anyway as that's bringing law enforcement into the equation, which I don't support for saying something that I don't agree with, I prefer to have a debate like we're having now.
But if we know that they are not that gender but are just saying they are because that's what they want. Then we're not misgendering them. We're referring to them by their real gender, not their fantasy one. They are the ones misgendering, by misgendering themselves.
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