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Old 19-04-2023, 09:30 AM #1
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"Transgender activists are outraged that Twitter has quietly removed restrictions
on 'dead-naming' and misgendering people




Transgender activists and their allies are expressing outrage after restrictions
on "dead-naming" and misgendering were deleted from Twitter's Terms of
Service.

The policy was enacted in 2018 before tech billionaire Elon Musk bought the
popular platform for $44 billion. On Sunday, Musk opined that declarations of
preferred pronouns were "virtue-signaling" that could be used as a shield by
bad people.

Two days later, the policy against misgendering was changed.

Sarah Kate Ellis, the president and CEO of GLAAD, told the Associated Press
that the change in policy would lead to violence against transgender people.

“Twitter’s decision to covertly roll back its longtime policy is the latest
example of just how unsafe the company is for users and advertisers alike,”
said Ellis.

“This decision to roll back LGBTQ safety pulls Twitter even more out of step
with TikTok, Pinterest, and Meta, which all maintain similar policies to protect
their transgender users at a time when anti-transgender rhetoric online is
leading to real-world discrimination and violence," she added.

Others attacked Twitter with their tweets.

"Twitter lifts it's policy on targeted misgendering and deadnaming and the
freaks are out gleefully misgendering and deadnaming every prominent trans
person as an achievement. It's not about speech, it's about bullies wanting
to harass people because of who they are," said activist Alejandra Caraballo.

"Every decision Musk makes is bad for free speech, safety, business," tweeted attorney Nora Benavidez.

"This is absolutely exhausting. Every day something else happens to show
just how much people despise trans people and don’t care about what
happens to us and it’s really *******ing overwhelming and frightening," said a rather hysterical user who identifies as a bisexual.

At least one other account called the policy change a "genocidal move."

Some public schools have changed their policies to include dead-naming and
misgendering as "slurs" and threatened to suspend students who refuse to
follow the new rules.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/transg...ring-activists
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"Transgender activists are outraged that Twitter has quietly removed restrictions
on 'dead-naming' and misgendering people




Transgender activists and their allies are expressing outrage after restrictions
on "dead-naming" and misgendering were deleted from Twitter's Terms of
Service.

The policy was enacted in 2018 before tech billionaire Elon Musk bought the
popular platform for $44 billion. On Sunday, Musk opined that declarations of
preferred pronouns were "virtue-signaling" that could be used as a shield by
bad people.

Two days later, the policy against misgendering was changed.

Sarah Kate Ellis, the president and CEO of GLAAD, told the Associated Press
that the change in policy would lead to violence against transgender people.

“Twitter’s decision to covertly roll back its longtime policy is the latest
example of just how unsafe the company is for users and advertisers alike,”
said Ellis.

“This decision to roll back LGBTQ safety pulls Twitter even more out of step
with TikTok, Pinterest, and Meta, which all maintain similar policies to protect
their transgender users at a time when anti-transgender rhetoric online is
leading to real-world discrimination and violence," she added.

Others attacked Twitter with their tweets.

"Twitter lifts it's policy on targeted misgendering and deadnaming and the
freaks are out gleefully misgendering and deadnaming every prominent trans
person as an achievement. It's not about speech, it's about bullies wanting
to harass people because of who they are," said activist Alejandra Caraballo.

"Every decision Musk makes is bad for free speech, safety, business," tweeted attorney Nora Benavidez.

"This is absolutely exhausting. Every day something else happens to show
just how much people despise trans people and don’t care about what
happens to us and it’s really *******ing overwhelming and frightening," said a rather hysterical user who identifies as a bisexual.

At least one other account called the policy change a "genocidal move."

Some public schools have changed their policies to include dead-naming and
misgendering as "slurs" and threatened to suspend students who refuse to
follow the new rules.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/transg...ring-activists
Tbf why do people want to be an asshole by dead naming or misgendering on purpose? Even if you don't agree with their view about how they see themselves, it is just about being respectful towards other people.

And look I get you might accidentally misgender someone, and that's fine because you're not being an asshole towards someone deliberately.
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Tbf why do people want to be an asshole by dead naming or misgendering on purpose?
because its all made up BS mock

If i told you if criticised Villa its called "Villafying"
and then told you you were a villaphobe

would you stop?

its a tactic to shut down an argument

its means NOTHING
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because its all made up BS mock

If i told you if criticised Villa its called "Villafying"
and then told you you were a villaphobe

would you stop?

its a tactic to shut down an argument

its means NOTHING
Disliking or liking a Football team isn't being disrespectful towards how someone identifies though.

And I'm not saying that anyone has to even like the Trans community (or any community for that matter) I just don't support deliberately being provocative towards them, like some of these people know that deadnaming is going to upset them which has me question why anyone would want to do that? Even if you don't like them when has it become okay to upset people just because you don't like them?

I'm not saying you as in you LT, I mean you as the general anti-Trans movement.

And look I don't support everything on the LGBTQ side of the debate, like I don't see J.K Rowling as the next Hitler, and the Trigender lady on your Woke Awareness thread was someone that I personally can't even comprehend, but I won't support deliberately upsetting them for no reason other than to be provocative.
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Tbf why do people want to be an asshole by dead naming or misgendering on purpose? Even if you don't agree with their view about how they see themselves, it is just about being respectful towards other people.

And look I get you might accidentally misgender someone, and that's fine because you're not being an asshole towards someone deliberately.
If a man wants to pretend to be a woman, then that's up to him.

If that man wants us to pretend that he's a woman, then that's up to us.

You seem to be advocating for forced compliance by trying to shame people as assholes if the don't comply.

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If a man wants to pretend to be a woman, then that's up to him.

If that man wants us to pretend that he's a woman, then that's up to us.

You seem to be advocating for forced compliance by trying to shame people as assholes if the don't comply.
I'm saying that deliberately misgendering or deadnaming people just to be offensive is being an asshole.

If you have a fair point to be made like the Sports or the Toilets then a debate can be had that isn't being an asshole and isn't "forced compliance" which is never something I'd advocate anyway as that's bringing law enforcement into the equation, which I don't support for saying something that I don't agree with, I prefer to have a debate like we're having now.
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I'm saying that deliberately misgendering or deadnaming people just to be offensive is being an asshole.

If you have a fair point to be made like the Sports or the Toilets then a debate can be had that isn't being an asshole and isn't "forced compliance" which is never something I'd advocate anyway as that's bringing law enforcement into the equation, which I don't support for saying something that I don't agree with, I prefer to have a debate like we're having now.
But if we know that they are not that gender but are just saying they are because that's what they want. Then we're not misgendering them. We're referring to them by their real gender, not their fantasy one. They are the ones misgendering, by misgendering themselves.
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But if we know that they are not that gender but are just saying they are because that's what they want. Then we're not misgendering them. We're referring to them by their real gender, not their fantasy one. They are the ones misgendering, by misgendering themselves.
I honestly think it depends on the setting.

In normal every day life I will call people by what they want to be called (or at least try to) but Sports is where I can meet you halfway a little bit as I can't ignore Biology in that particular area.

And the Toilets I honestly believe that the decision should be up to women to decide like I've said on here in the past, it's not really my place to decide one way or the other.

But anyway I personally don't support deliberately upsetting people just for the sake of it, especially when most of the community aren't criminals.
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