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Old 08-05-2023, 12:34 PM #1
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It’s fair to say that the rules of war had changed by the time Di got proactive …



Was she supposed to live out her life as a nun whilst hubby was humping his ‘lady friend’ ?
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You can keep repeating the fictional ‘Crown’ series version of events but it just doesn’t stack up. There is no evidence at all, not one shred, (even Diana never said so) that he resumed an affair with Camilla as soon as he married Diana. There are many that insist he didn’t start the affair until 5 years afterwards, in 1986, ‘when the marriage had irretrievably broken down’.
There is however some credence that Diana was the first to have affairs, which was suppressed by the media of the time to suit their narrative of the beautiful, perfect Princess. Obviously the marriage wasn’t working, for both of them and I guess Diana knew only too well that his heart still belonged with Camilla.

It was reported that her first affair was in 1983 with a man called Henry Herbert, the 17th Earl of Pembroke.
Julia Samuels, her friend, admitted Diana was having an affair with her protection officer, Barry Mannakee in 1985….and it is said there were others.
Then came James Hewitt, Will Carling and Oliver Hoare, all of which were carried out after Charles started his affair with Camilla.
I was a huge Diana fan and had so much sympathy for her, still do, but from all I have read, from friends of both couples, I’m inclined to believe the above.
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You can keep repeating the fictional ‘Crown’ series version of events but it just doesn’t stack up. There is no evidence at all, not one shred, (even Diana never said so) that he resumed an affair with Camilla as soon as he married Diana. There are many that insist he didn’t start the affair until 5 years afterwards, in 1986, ‘when the marriage had irretrievably broken down’.
There is however some credence that Diana was the first to have affairs, which was suppressed by the media of the time to suit their narrative of the beautiful, perfect Princess. Obviously the marriage wasn’t working, for both of them and I guess Diana knew only too well that his heart still belonged with Camilla.

It was reported that her first affair was in 1983 with a man called Henry Herbert, the 17th Earl of Pembroke.
Julia Samuels, her friend, admitted Diana was having an affair with her protection officer, Barry Mannakee in 1985….and it is said there were others.
Then came James Hewitt, Will Carling and Oliver Hoare, all of which were carried out after Charles started his affair with Camilla.
I was a huge Diana fan and had so much sympathy for her, still do, but from all I have read, from friends of both couples, I’m inclined to believe the above.

I’ve never watched a single second of The Crown so I have no thoughts on it .

Ultimately it was Charles who ‘struck’ first so anything after that is irrelevant as he ‘changed’ the rules .

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I’ve never watched a single second of The Crown so I have no thoughts on it .

Ultimately it was Charles who ‘struck’ first so anything after that is irrelevant as he ‘changed’ the rules


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Where do you get your info from?

He didn't 'strike first' though...nowadays it is accepted by many that he was faithful for 5 years hoping the marriage would work - it wasn't working and Diana was the first to have affairs. Not that it matters anymore, time moves on....
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He didn't 'strike first' though...nowadays it is accepted by many that he was faithful for 5 years hoping the marriage would work - it wasn't working and Diana was the first to have affairs. Not that it matters anymore, time moves on....

If you want to believe he was celibate for 5 years with his old ( married) girlfriend constantly hanging around then so be it …

He couldn’t keep away from her when he was single and she was married with children..


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If you want to believe he was celibate for 5 years with his old ( married) girlfriend constantly hanging around then so be it …

He couldn’t keep away from her when he was single and she was married with children..


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He wasn't celibate for the 5 years...he had 2 children with Diana.
It's not a case of 'wanting to believe' anything, I've always preferred Diana to Camilla by far - it's what the friends of both of them have admitted to over the years.
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He wasn't celibate for the 5 years...he had 2 children with Diana.
It's not a case of 'wanting to believe' anything, I've always preferred Diana to Camilla by far - it's what the friends of both of them have admitted to over the years.

Maybe celibate was the wrong choice of words. .. maybe ‘happy to sit around chewing the fat’ would have been better ..



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