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Old 06-05-2023, 09:45 PM #251
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The worst thing about the next election

After the results from Thursday, every commentator will say that Labour are
certain to win the next general election. But they’re wrong. Labour aren’t
going to win.

The Tories are going to lose.

This is a crucial distinction. Most voters are plainly motivated by grim
disillusionment with the Government – not delirious enthusiasm for Labour’s
policies, whatever they may be. By the election, the Tories will have been in
power for 14 years. More than enough for all but their most loyal supporters
to have grown heartily sick of them. So, as it tends to do in such
circumstances, the country will sigh, and give the sole available alternative a
whirl.

That, though, is not how pro-Labour pundits and celebrities will view it.
Instead, they’ll treat the result as an endorsement not only of Labour, but of
their own personal worldview.

“See!” they’ll crow. “This shows that the Tories got the British people
completely wrong, with their hateful Right-wing culture wars. Clearly the
public actually LOVE small boats. And puberty blockers, and the EU, and
reparations for slavery, and teaching primary school children about dildos.
The Tories are so out of touch…”

For Conservatives, this is going to be the worst thing about the next general
election. Not the result. But the gloating afterwards.

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UK elections have been fought and won/lost on negative terms since before I was born. Which election has been about giddy enthusiasm for the side that gets in? It's always either a "better the devil you know" (sitting govt stays in power) or a "anything is better than this" (change of govt.). Who is voting on the basis that what's being offered sounds good??
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UK elections have been fought and won/lost on negative terms since before I was born. Which election has been about giddy enthusiasm for the side that gets in? It's always either a "better the devil you know" (sitting govt stays in power) or a "anything is better than this" (change of govt.). Who is voting on the basis that what's being offered sounds good??
Corbyn tried it and everyone said he was living in fantasy land
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Boris 2019 was a positive vision but ruined by covid
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covid laid bare the problems with the tory party. It highlighted their corruption and in fighting. So if anything was responsible for the tories downfall it was covid. Just like it claimed the scalps of many governments in power at that time
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Of Course

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Thurs. 4/May/2023
Final Numbers Local Election

Labour 2,674 (+536)

Conservative 2,296 (- 1,061)

Lib Dem 1,628 (+407)

Green 481 (+241)

Others 963 (-103)

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