[Candy Annie Cane]

It's all very uncomfortable to read and watch tbh.
If there is a case to answer it needs to be done in private now. I have no desire to be party to trial by media.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

It's all very uncomfortable to read and watch tbh.
If there is a case to answer it needs to be done in private now. I have no desire to be party to trial by media.

he used the "media" to become very wealthy and he used his own family along the way

I welcome trial by media for this wretch

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The point really is anything he is saying is only a one sided take from him.

What's needed to know is, to even try to clear this up.
Is the other guy in the mix.
He knows the age he was, he knows the full extent of communication with Schofield.
He knows what and where all took place and what too was his take on the relationship.

Furthermore why has nothing been heard from him.
Why?
Is it because Schofield's account is right.
Or is he unable to comment because of anything he's had to sign or been paid not to reveal.

If that's so, then why was it necessary to ensure his silence, what would have been necessary to hide, and STILL be hiding?
Since nothings been heard from him.

So it's all very well for Schofield to give a full media and public interview.
However NOT the other person who Schofield has apologised to.
Apologising for WHAT?

As can be the case, when one person in a concerning issue gives an interview, more questions are created.

His career he says is over.
IF there is nothing unsavoury and all was in order legally.
Then why should his career be over?

If the silence from the other guy continues.
How can Schofield be completely believed since he's admitted to years and years of continual lies and deceit to his wife, children, family, colleagues and the viewing public too while employed on TV.

We have Schofield's own account of this concerning issue.
That's all his interview has done..
No real in depth questions have been concusively either properly addressed or answered.

I do think however, Schofield needs someone close to be in close contact just to make sure he remains safe.
He clearly is broken by this which is very sad.
He'll need very strong support it seems.

I'm still left wondering just what the other younger guy is thinking and how he is feeling too.
With all this highlighting and speculation going on around his life and relationship with Schofield.
Why has he said nothing ?
Or why CAN he not say anything?
From whatever conditions on his silence may have been put in place as to this.

Without his input.
Speculation will only continue and may even yet intensify.

From the lawyers representing him they said

He is no longer willing to deny the relationship he doesn’t want any pictures of him in the press of how he looks now and is working in a remote pub

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

It's all very uncomfortable to read and watch tbh.
If there is a case to answer it needs to be done in private now. I have no desire to be party to trial by media.

In private things are swept under the carpet
It’s not just Phil that has to face up to what he did it’s others that allowed it to happen

It’s another savile type situation, people allowing someone to abuse their power over someone else and those that should of stopped it allowing it to happen

[thesheriff443]

A handful of people get the top shows but not only that they get spin of shows and game shows and radio shows

The people at the top and those people putting them there and keeping them have to much of a hold over others

We are hearing if you speak up you are out the door, this needs to stop

[bots]

there will never be any legal action taken against Phil. He has lost his TV gig and that's what annoys him. Welcome to the real world Phil.

ITV have questions to answer and they could be in a bit of bother legally, we will just have to see how that develops

[Christmas Dynasnow]

that Sun interview is one big piece of spin

[bots]

it's all poor me, poor me. That has 2 effects, it supresses public anger and also tries to guilt people into keeping quiet that would have come forward to speak against him. It's a planned strategy to manipulate

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's all poor me, poor me. That has 2 effects, it supresses public anger and also tries to guilt people into keeping quiet that would have come forward to speak against him. It's a planned strategy to manipulate

He should of spent more time in the mirror practicing because his face didn’t tally up with what he was saying

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's all poor me, poor me. That has 2 effects, it supresses public anger and also tries to guilt people into keeping quiet that would have come forward to speak against him. It's a planned strategy to manipulate

"I would not be here if it weren't for my daughters" shameless using his daughters like that

[Liam-]

People and the media won’t be happy until he’s dead at this point

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Liam-

People and the media won’t be happy until he’s dead at this point

Why the need kill him self if he’s done nothing wrong?

He didn’t care about the people he ridiculed on the show

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he used the "media" to become very wealthy and he used his own family along the way

I welcome trial by media for this wretch

Yes fair points LT.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

People and the media won’t be happy until he’s dead at this point

You must try to add
"Some" at the start.


As not all want him dead

[arista]

BBCnewsHD
even showed a clip of Alison Hammond
crying today.

[UserSince2005]

I saw Amol Rajan in London last weekend, he was out with his two kids and wife. Very short family.

[arista]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

I saw Amol Rajan in London last weekend, he was out with his two kids and wife. Very short family.

Yes, he was a Runner
on the Wright Stuff on Ch5

And then became the Editor of the Independent Paper

Now he is the Media Reporter at BBC

[user104658]

Really complicated part is that he probably doesn't see it as grooming (MANY groomers would hand on heart say they're not and believe it) and it might not even have been an intent for it to become a non-platonic relationship.

So giving the benefit of the doubt,

He cultivated a relationship - whether he intended to or not - with a power and experience differential with a young boy who clearly had a lot of admiration for him and developed feelings for him. That can happen unintentionally but when that becomes clear that's when the "Philip" in the situation is supposed to say "Oh dear I didn't know you had those sorts of feelings, this wasn't my intention and is deeply inappropriate and we need to step away from this."

Not "Whoohoo drop your pants".

He really downplays that imbalance by saying he "kinda sorta acknowledges that he did something wrong". This wasn't a lapse of willpower and a one-night hookup it was an ongoing relationship. That's not an "error" it's a choice.

I can appreciate that the onslaught is awful for any human and the media is the beast that it is. Losing his career is consequence enough. He has more than enough money to live out the rest of his life comfortably - he does not need to work in entertainment again. Ever.

So yes on the one hand I think the press "should" leave this part alone, BUT there does need to be a push to find out if there's more, if there was facilitation and a cover-up, and to find out if it is indeed a "culture" and not just about Schofield.

Schofield himself though? He needs to accept that his career and life in the public eye is over and move on. He doesn't have to be on telly giving interviews. If he's truly done nothing worth investigating and it's all "legal and above board" then he could move to a cottage in the middle of nowhere, read some philosophy and try to be a better person for himself.

This sort of smacks of him trying to salvage some scrapings of a career, and being more concerned about "what people think of him" than with actually becoming a better person. Becoming a better person doesn't need an audience.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

his defense is "we just became mates and one day we were both naked as it was hot and he tripped on a glace cherry and found himself inside me"

honest guv and before that I had never thought about sex with him

[thesheriff443]

The reality of this situation is
It’s only because his brother was convicted of being a pedophile that this story has finally come out otherwise it would be all smiles

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

his defense is "we just became mates and one day we were both naked as it was hot and he tripped on a glace cherry and found himself inside me"

honest guv and before that I had never thought about sex with him

you are just jealous because he never offered you the big break as a tea boy

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

From the lawyers representing him they said

He is no longer willing to deny the relationship he doesn’t want any pictures of him in the press of how he looks now and is working in a remote pub

Thanks you for that info sheriff.
I do get he doesn't want to be in the public eye
That's understandable.

I just can't see this ending, even if it can, until he's directly given his account and position.
I really feel for him.
He was the one on the lower rungs of the ladder.
Schofield was like a giant in the media and on TV.
With clearly a lot of power as to the show too.
Hence who he could have co presenting with him even it seems.

I have a terrible suspicious mind.
I accept that.
I felt from his interview he was trying to say enough to defuse this full of unanswered questions of this particular relationship .
In my view he didn't succeed.

However only by saying enough he wanted to while I thought there was a lot he was leaving out.

I too as Annie said, dislike trial by media.
There's a way to stop that though and put all the facts out from all involved in the situation.
After all Schofield was a massive part of the media plus now he has chosen the media still to have his say.
How he wants to say it and portray it.
I fear however the speculation will continue and possibly get worse even from the media.
Moreso from this interview he's just done.

[bots]

Youtube video

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Really complicated part is that he probably doesn't see it as grooming (MANY groomers would hand on heart say they're not and believe it) and it might not even have been an intent for it to become a non-platonic relationship.

So giving the benefit of the doubt,

He cultivated a relationship - whether he intended to or not - with a power and experience differential with a young boy who clearly had a lot of admiration for him and developed feelings for him. That can happen unintentionally but when that becomes clear that's when the "Philip" in the situation is supposed to say "Oh dear I didn't know you had those sorts of feelings, this wasn't my intention and is deeply inappropriate and we need to step away from this."

Not "Whoohoo drop your pants".

He really downplays that imbalance by saying he "kinda sorta acknowledges that he did something wrong". This wasn't a lapse of willpower and a one-night hookup it was an ongoing relationship. That's not an "error" it's a choice.

I can appreciate that the onslaught is awful for any human and the media is the beast that it is. Losing his career is consequence enough. He has more than enough money to live out the rest of his life comfortably - he does not need to work in entertainment again. Ever.

So yes on the one hand I think the press "should" leave this part alone, BUT there does need to be a push to find out if there's more, if there was facilitation and a cover-up, and to find out if it is indeed a "culture" and not just about Schofield.

Schofield himself though? He needs to accept that his career and life in the public eye is over and move on. He doesn't have to be on telly giving interviews. If he's truly done nothing worth investigating and it's all "legal and above board" then he could move to a cottage in the middle of nowhere, read some philosophy and try to be a better person for himself.

This sort of smacks of him trying to salvage some scrapings of a career, and being more concerned about "what people think of him" than with actually becoming a better person. Becoming a better person doesn't need an audience.

That's a strong post Soldier Boy.
I agree with near all of it.

Your last paragraph is more how I saw his real hope and intention from doing this interview.

He'll have been well advised, what to say, how much to say and reveal, also how to express it too.
With likely strong advice what definitely to leave out.