[Zizu]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

I think she always knew what was going on.

What I dont get is why she suddenly turned on him early this year.

It cant just be that his brother was found to be a pedo.

Maybe it’s because she/they … all just found out just how long Schofield has actually known the lad ..

Nobody could have known it was quite as long ago as it appears to have been.


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[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Maybe it’s because she/they … all just found out just how long Schofield has actually known the lad ..

Nobody could have known it was quite as long ago as it appears to have been.


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What if Holly knew something was going on and turned a blind eye . People knew Saville was a pervert ,and they let him carry on.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

What if Holly knew something was going on and turned a blind eye . People knew Saville was a pervert ,and they let him carry on.

I think it’s clear that she knew as much as everyone else .. probably the bare minimum - just what Schofield was comfortable enough with them knowing ..


Then when it came out about the lad being 15 ( or was it 10 ? ) when their paths crossed. .. they all realised the seriousness of the situation


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

What if Holly knew something was going on and turned a blind eye . People knew Saville was a pervert ,and they let him carry on.

My guess is she did, or at least suspect.
I think she's being very selective as to what she knew or suspected.

Whatever act she perforns today, will not convice me of otherwise.
She is likely to be eager to make an announcement today on the issue.
She is two faced and quite a hard nut to crack.

I haven't a clue how she will play this out today.
However she does.
It will be possibly an Oscar worthy performance of acting.
Maybe she should look at joining a soap like Emmerdale etc:

Two really and VERY close friends don't end up with the rift of one not being able to work or be with the other over secrets kept by one of them, even using lies to cover their personal secret

Had Schofield challenged Willoughby's own integrity then that rift would be more understandable.
His lies though,as she termed being hurt by his lies.
Why hurt by his lies?
She could be angry or sad that he hadn't confided all to her.
HURT though, because of what?

There may be more and maybe she knows OR more likely suspects more.
This today from her will be just about her and saving her status on TV.

I cannot stand her, I have never thought her anything else other than false in her TV image.
Before I'm jumped on for speculation.
Which is all we are left with.
Since I don't believe we've had ALL the truth from Schofield.
We haven't either had I THINK, much real truth from Willoughby either.

Will that be altered today by her.
I doubt it..
Although it would be good to see and hear.

However I still think she should have gone from This morning and Dancing on Ice too.
Because all the time she's now on them.
She will be a constant reminder of this scandal.

Give her another show by all means.
If she had a shred of decency too herself though, she should have gone too and given the show a totally fresh new start.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

My guess is she did, or at least suspect.
I think she's being very selective as to what she knew or suspected.

Whatever act she perforns today, will not convice me of otherwise.
She is likely to be eager to make an announcement today on the issue.
She is two faced and quite a hard nut to crack.

I haven't a clue how she will play this out today.
However she does.
It will be possibly an Oscar worthy performance of acting.
Maybe she should look at joining a soap like Emmerdale etc:

Two really and VERY close friends don't end up with the rift of one not being able to work or be with the other over secrets kept by one of them, even using lies to cover their personal secret

Had Schofield challenged Willoughby's own integrity then that rift would be more understandable.
His lies though,as she termed being hurt by his lies.
Why hurt by his lies?
She could be angry or sad that he hadn't confided all to her.
HURT though, because of what?

There may be more and maybe she knows OR more likely suspects more.
This today from her will be just about her and saving her status on TV.

I cannot stand her, I have never thought her anything else other than false in her TV image.
Before I'm jumped on for speculation.
Which is all we are left with.
Since I don't believe we've had ALL the truth from Schofield.
We haven't either had I THINK, much real truth from Willoughby either.

Will that be altered today by her.
I doubt it..
Although it would be good to see and hear.

However I still think she should have gone from This morning and Dancing on Ice too.
Because all the time she's now on them.
She will be a constant reminder of this scandal.

Give her another show by all means.
If she had a shred of decency too herself though, she should have gone too and given the show a totally fresh new start.

On a serious note you say you are convinced she has selective memory ..

I just don’t know HOW she could have known that Schofield had followed the lad on Facebook at 15 or had seen him performing in shows at the age of 10 ..

Those are the things that nobody apart from Schofield and the lad could have known … and they are the main things imho ..


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

On a serious note you say you are convinced she has selective memory ..

I just don’t know HOW she could have known that Schofield had followed the lad on Facebook at 15 or has seen him performing in shows at the age of 10 ..

Those are the things that nobody apart from Schofield and the lad could have known … and they are the main things imho ..


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What ??

She's been alongside Schofield, like in his pocket for ages now presenting This morning 4 days a week.
As well as on other shows with him too.
She's even been involved in on screen interaction with Schofield and this young man.

Yet she never even slightly suspected never mind knew, of anything happening between them
She had to KNOW Schofield had at least got him on the show.

Sorry no way for me.
She's as false as anyone can be.
A miss Sweet actress only in front of cameras.
A totally false image.

Even today.
To save her own status on TV.
She will come on and be willing to talk ABOUT Schofield.
While not talking TO him.
False, false, false.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What ??

She's been alongside Schofield, like in his pocket for ages now presenting This morning 4 days a week.
As well as on other shows with him too.
She's even been involved in on screen interaction with Schofield and this young man.

Yet she never even slightly suspected never mind knew, of anything happening between them
She had to KNOW Schofield had at least got him on the show.

Sorry no way for me.
She's as false as anyone can be.
A miss Sweet actress only in front of cameras.
A totally false image.

Even today.
To save her own status on TV.
She will come on and be willing to talk ABOUT Schofield.
While not talking TO him.
False, false, false.

We are going around in circles yet you never address my points , just recycle your own thoughts and opinions.


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

We are going around in circles yet you never address my points , just recycle your own thoughts and opinions.


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Zizu with the fullest respect you know my view by now beyond doubt surely.
Just as I know yours.

You will never convince me otherwise just as I could never have you see my points too.

So going around in circles is all that can result as to Willoughby.
I do answer but sadly my answers are not the ones you want to see.
We won't ever agree on Willoughby.
No way.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

My guess is she did, or at least suspect.
I think she's being very selective as to what she knew or suspected.

Whatever act she perforns today, will not convice me of otherwise.
She is likely to be eager to make an announcement today on the issue.
She is two faced and quite a hard nut to crack.

I haven't a clue how she will play this out today.
However she does.
It will be possibly an Oscar worthy performance of acting.
Maybe she should look at joining a soap like Emmerdale etc:

Two really and VERY close friends don't end up with the rift of one not being able to work or be with the other over secrets kept by one of them, even using lies to cover their personal secret

Had Schofield challenged Willoughby's own integrity then that rift would be more understandable.
His lies though,as she termed being hurt by his lies.
Why hurt by his lies?
She could be angry or sad that he hadn't confided all to her.
HURT though, because of what?

There may be more and maybe she knows OR more likely suspects more.
This today from her will be just about her and saving her status on TV.

I cannot stand her, I have never thought her anything else other than false in her TV image.
Before I'm jumped on for speculation.
Which is all we are left with.
Since I don't believe we've had ALL the truth from Schofield.
We haven't either had I THINK, much real truth from Willoughby either.

Will that be altered today by her.
I doubt it..
Although it would be good to see and hear.

However I still think she should have gone from This morning and Dancing on Ice too.
Because all the time she's now on them.
She will be a constant reminder of this scandal.

Give her another show by all means.
If she had a shred of decency too herself though, she should have gone too and given the show a totally fresh new start.

Yeah she might aswell join one of the soaps lol .

I agree that This morning ( although I rarely watch it ) should get a fresh new start. You're right she will always be a reminder of the Schofield scandal.

I mean let's say we give her the benefit of the doubt. Did she really not know something was off at the ITV studios!??. she was very close to Schofield ... they were both inseparable ,infact before he came out the closet...many people thought they were like a couple.

But yeah her little statement on air , just looks like she's trying to get sympathy and save her career. ITV themselves have alot to answer for aswell, people will be surprised at how much dodgy stuff gets ignored. I think Schofield took advantage of his status and probably thought he was untouchable. Even now he's still trying to manipulate the public.

Willoughby knew sticking by him at the time would help open doors for her . And now that he's been exposed .... she's going to drop him like a bag of garbage ,I wonder who her new on screen duo will be?.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah she might aswell join one of the soaps lol .

I agree that This morning ( although I rarely watch it ) should get a fresh new start. You're right she will always be a reminder of the Schofield scandal.

I mean let's say we give her the benefit of the doubt. Did she really not know something was off at the ITV studios!??. she was very close to Schofield ... they were both inseparable ,infact before he came out the closet...many people thought they were like a couple.

But yeah her little statement on air , just looks like she's trying to get sympathy and save her career. ITV themselves have alot to answer for aswell, people will be surprised at how much dodgy stuff gets ignored. I think Schofield took advantage of his status and probably thought he was untouchable. Even now he's still trying to manipulate the public.

Willoughby knew sticking by him at the time would help open doors for her . And now that he's been exposed .... she's going to drop him like a bag of garbage ,I wonder who her new on screen duo will be?.

People move on and forget ..

Remember loads of people hating on Becks. ?

Hanging and burning effigies of him after the World Cup ?


Move forward a while and he was back to being the blue eyed boy again and all forgiven .

Holly hasn’t even done anything wrong


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