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Old 14-09-2023, 02:16 AM #4601
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A Russian pilot tried to shoot down an RAF surveillance plane after believing he had permission to fire, the BBC has learned.

The pilot fired two missiles, the first of which missed rather than malfunctioned as claimed at the time.

Russia had claimed the incident last September was caused by a "technical malfunction".

The UK's Ministry of Defence (MoD) publicly accepted the Russian explanation.

But now three senior Western defence sources with knowledge of the incident have told the BBC that Russian communications intercepted by the RAF RC-135 Rivet Joint aircraft give a very different account from the official version.

The RAF plane - with a crew of up to 30 - was flying a surveillance mission over the Black Sea in international airspace on 29 September last year when it encountered two Russian SU-27 fighter jets.

The intercepted communications show that one of the Russian pilots thought he had been given permission to target the British aircraft, following an ambiguous command from a Russian ground station.

However, the second Russian pilot did not. He remonstrated and swore at his wingman when he fired the first missile.

The Rivet Joint is loaded with sensors to intercept communications. The RAF crew would have been able to listen in to the incident which could have resulted in their own deaths.

The MoD will not release details of those communications.

Responding to these new revelations an MoD spokesperson said: "Our intent has always been to protect the safety of our operations, avoid unnecessary escalation and inform the public and international community."

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[Over the Black Sea in international airspace
on 29 September last year when it encountered
two Russian SU-27 fighter jets.]


Russia is getting like China
on what they see as their Territory.

International Airspace
Next to a War Zone

This will happen again
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So we should not provoke them by giving their enemies weapons...
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So we should not provoke them by giving their enemies weapons...
At that time we were not
giving so many weapons

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Don't let them talk you into WW3. That's what they want. That's what all the propaganda is for.

Just look at who they're bringing into our countries on a daily basis. It's not pensioners. It's not women. It's not children. It's fighting aged men. It's all planned. That's the deep States army to fight for them against you when the Don exposes them all.
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its a fact that progress has been made so thats bollox. Russia are a bit delayed in their capture of Kiev

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Poland no longer supporting Ukraine in supplying them with weapons


time to think for ourselves, what their PM Duda said
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time to think for ourselves, what their PM Duda said


Yes,
they can no longer afford this War.
They have a Election soon

Poland stops supplying weapons to
Ukraine as grain row escalates




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ukraine cant expect advantage all the time. Hopefully this will bring them back down to earth
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Time for a ceasefire
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it's a pretty stupid strategy to take legal action against your direct neighbours who have actively supplied you with weapons to protect yourself
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Time for this Russian province to surrender to its true leader Vladimir Putin. Zelensky to be tried in Moscow for high treason and war crimes.
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Time for a ceasefire

Sadly Not
Poland has pulled out helping with weapons.


Zelenskyy is in NYC
at the United Nations
Trying hard to get more nations
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Time for this Russian province to surrender to its true leader Vladimir Putin. Zelensky to be tried in Moscow for high treason and war crimes.

No Sticks,
he is Protected by USA/UK/France
and many other nations
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Zelenskyy is in NYC
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to help his nation.
Some of those nations need to tell him some proper home truths, not be a bunch of anti-Russian yes people.
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Some of those nations need to tell him some proper home truths, not be a bunch of anti-Russian yes people.


Yes some may.
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we can bury our heads in the sand, and maybe thats the right approach, but a nuke attack is coming if the winds of change don't blow
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Canada is giving Ukraine $650Million

USA is to give Ukraine Long Range Missiles


SkyNewsHD
USA reporter Mark Stone.




https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...aine-next-week

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£850,000
each per new Missile

Reported on SkyNewsHD

shocking cost to this War
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Why are the Ukraine advertising that they’ve had success using missiles and weapons supplied by the UK !?!


That’s the last kind of advertising we need


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Exactly

Why are they painting a target on us

Now all British ships are legitimate military targets, as well as planes.
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