[arista]

Yes, terrible to crouch down in your car,
Staying alive

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

Anger at the BBC
who will not call Hamas "Terrorists"

Every other News station is calling Hamas
"Terrorists"

[OnTheRight]

I hope Israel go hard and smash the terrorists.

[Vanessa]

Hamas is not doing the Palestinians any favours. They are terrorists and I hope Israel goes on them hard.

[Crimson Dynamo]

BBC calling these terrorists militants should be reason enough to never, ever pay the license fee again

dont pay

[Nicky91]

not choosing either side myself in this


Hamas are bad


but Israel are bad too

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

what hard men they are, parading around the body of a young girl who wasn't even Israeli.....

[Crimson Dynamo]

[arista]

Yes in the UK
they are Terrorists,
but the BBC say Hamas are militants?

They could tell the British Public
why they are against calling them Terrorists.

[Nicky91]

they aren't terrorists

ISIL, Al Qaeda that are terrorists


Hamas are a militant organization, also said so by its wikipedia article

is a Palestinian Sunni-Islamic fundamentalist, militant, and nationalist organization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas


certain countries have labelled them ''terrorists'' yes but they are officially ''militants'' so BBC are kinda correct, to say something different than how politicians label them

[Nicky91]

as if Israel are that perfect anyway, answering violence with more violence yup


not every palestinian is part of Hamas though, and i bet israeli's have killed many innocents too



and this is not something from now, but something what has been going on for more than 40 years now

[joeysteele]

This is really worrying and desperately sad.

However for me, Israel's patience has been pushed to the limit.
I am sorry for all losses of lives in wars or otherwise.
However I stand completely with Israel and it's right to defend itself.

I just hope this new conflict can be defused as quickly as possible.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

as if Israel are that perfect anyway, answering violence with more violence yup


not every palestinian is part of Hamas though, and i bet israeli's have killed many innocents too



and this is not something from now, but something what has been going on for more than 40 years now

Hamas is a proscribed terrorist organisation under UK law

wikipedia is bollox and changes daily like the wind

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This is really worrying and desperately sad.

However for me, Israel's patience has been pushed to the limit.
I am sorry for all losses of lives in wars or otherwise.
However I stand completely with Israel and it's right to defend itself.

I just hope this new conflict can be defused as quickly as possible.

Prisoner Exchange
could be set up
by a 3rd party.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

what hard men they are, parading around the body of a young girl who wasn't even Israeli.....

Massive Hamas Error.

[bots]

this conflict is going to expand, it's inevitable. I hate to think where this is going to end

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

not choosing either side myself in this


Hamas are bad


but Israel are bad too

Originally Posted by Nicky91

they aren't terrorists

ISIL, Al Qaeda that are terrorists


Hamas are a militant organization, also said so by its wikipedia article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas


certain countries have labelled them ''terrorists'' yes but they are officially ''militants'' so BBC are kinda correct, to say something different than how politicians label them

Originally Posted by Nicky91

as if Israel are that perfect anyway, answering violence with more violence yup


not every palestinian is part of Hamas though, and i bet israeli's have killed many innocents too



and this is not something from now, but something what has been going on for more than 40 years now

You've said some pretty dumb-arse stuff on here... but this takes the biscuit.

[user104658]

I think this is a particularly sad example of war - which of course is always devastating. Politically it's near-impossible to paint a good guy/bad guy scenario. Realistically, that's pretty much always the case (the world operates in the grey, that's just how it is) but even moreso here; an insurgency led by terrorism can never be seen as a good thing. Israeli apartheid, and the abysmal conditions in Palestine that contribute to radicalisation can never be seen as a good thing, and in terms of global history, the fact that Israel exists as a state at all is a complete political anomaly -- endless bloodshed being an all but inevitable part of it, which the Powers The Be at the time simply MUST have known. And the justification is largely religion/bloodright type stuff which is of course ... questionable.

But on top of that; the vast majority of the victims, even moreso than a "conventional" war, are going to be innocent civilians who have absolutely nothing to do with the politics of it. The terrorist atrocities carried out against innocent people in Israel are unthinkable. Israel will undoubtedly respond with a bombing campaign, perhaps a US-style "shock and awe" bombing campain, and the victims will mostly be ... again ... innocent people.

It's a really abysmal war.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This is really worrying and desperately sad.

However for me, Israel's patience has been pushed to the limit.
I am sorry for all losses of lives in wars or otherwise.
However I stand completely with Israel and it's right to defend itself.

I just hope this new conflict can be defused as quickly as possible.

I agree Joey I just hope they defend themselves with scalpels rather than sledgehammers... but I just can't see that being the case. I think Palestine may well be reduced to rubble, and that goes beyond reasonable defense.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I agree Joey I just hope they defend themselves with scalpels rather than sledgehammers... but I just can't see that being the case. I think Palestine may well be reduced to rubble, and that goes beyond reasonable defense.

The best result for everyone involved (especially Palestinians) would be the rapid removal of Hamas.