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Old 18-10-2023, 07:34 AM #51
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He isn’t lol. This is part of the reason why Big Brother in 2023 is probably a bad idea
…I think that BB in 2023 is an excellent idea, goddamnit……but yeah, I do think it’s always been a great platform to open up any talking points…with social media influences etc, though…it can be more of a ‘labelling’ society, rather than talking and discussing…so I completely understand what you mean….labelling has been …(imo….)…such a regression because it immediately closes down….

…I like Zak and I’m going to hold back on any casual sexism he may have displayed because I feel that it was more a thoughtless remark in the moment…I saw it all, the Zak, what on Earth were you thinking-gate, mentioned on something as…oh his true colours etc…this is the real Zak…!!!…and that always makes me cringe in that there are always lots of aspects and layers to people..that one thing doesn’t change any of his positives, you know…it’s that we’re seeing different aspects to people….

…what I found more interesting was that Zak feels that his relationship with Trish is quite brother/sister and winding up but affectionate, type thing…but I’m not entirely sure that that’s a mutual thing because Trish did throw that label, did she…?….quite quickly so the understanding/friendship between them doesn’t seem to concur….and those boundaries do have to be established is another thing …if for instance, of something being perceived and received in the same vibe as it was said…
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I think that BB in 2023 is an excellent idea, goddamnit……but yeah, I do think it’s always been a great platform to open up any talking points…with social media influences etc, though…it can be more of a ‘labelling’ society, rather than talking and discussing…so I completely understand what you mean….labelling has been …(imo….)…such a regression because it immediately closes down….

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It’s kinda like a LGBT+ Big Brother really …

Even the supposedly macho one , Paul said he used to wear makeup and dress in girls clothes when he was young ..


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ngl I was horrified what I saw re: Noky.. I thought that was borderline assault and while Kerry and Olivia were laughing uncomfortably, I'm really not sure what Noky thought the poor girl had only walked past
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I think he's sexist and unaware of it, the fact he just said it so simply until Trish called him out was shocking. I think he's one of those "the man is in control" kinda guys
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I think he's sexist and unaware of it, the fact he just said it so simply until Trish called him out was shocking. I think he's one of those "the man is in control" kinda guys
Yep, that's definitely the vibe I got last night too from him
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Yh I mean the comments he made did come across to me as sexist. I think he said it as a joke but he ended up making himself look like a complete div and tbh I think he knew this himself especially when he had that little pop at Trish which turned out to be banter apparently?

I do feel like Zak wears a smile like a mask in there quite a lot and soon enough his true personality will come through.

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I find it laughable though .... hm's talking about him being 'fake' &
'game plans' , when a few of them are playing up to the camera's themselves. They should look in the mirror.
I kinda get why people might find him fake but what made me laugh the most were the people who was discussing this which was Kerry and Hallie. To me they’ve been the fakest housemates so far and have definitely been playing up to the cameras.

I don’t think he has a game plan because (and not in a nasty way) but I don’t think he has the intelligence to have one especially if he’s blurting out sexist comments within the first 2 weeks.
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Yh I mean the comments he made did come across to me as sexist. I think he said it as a joke but he ended up making himself look like a complete div and tbh I think he knew this himself especially when he had that little pop at Trish which turned out to be banter apparently?

I do feel like Zak wears a smile like a mask in there quite a lot and soon enough his true personality will come through.



I kinda get why people might find him fake but what made me laugh the most were the people who was discussing this which was Kerry and Hallie. To me they’ve been the fakest housemates so far and have definitely been playing up to the cameras.

I don’t think he has a game plan because (and not in a nasty way) but I don’t think he has the intelligence to have one especially if he’s blurting out sexist comments within the first 2 weeks.
Exactly my thinking aswell , it would be a very strange game plan.

And when he was talking to Noky in the garden, he was saying he thinks they'll both last a few more weeks. I don't think he thinks he's going to win.

It will be interesting to see how he acts tonight.
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Exactly my thinking aswell , it would be a very strange game plan.

And when he was talking to Noky in the garden, he was saying he thinks they'll both last a few more weeks. I don't think he thinks he's going to win.

It will be interesting to see how he acts tonight.
I think he’s right, I reckon they’ll be in there for a few more weeks but I don’t either of them will win tbh.

Tbh (and I’m just speaking hypothetically here) I wouldn’t be surprised if he apologises about it in front of everyone and then Hallie makes a comment about it to Kerry being fake or some sort of game playing tactic. It would be very ironic especially as it’s something that Hallie has already done herself.
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I think he’s right, I reckon they’ll be in there for a few more weeks but I don’t either of them will win tbh.

Tbh (and I’m just speaking hypothetically here) I wouldn’t be surprised if he apologises about it in front of everyone and then Hallie makes a comment about it to Kerry being fake or some sort of game playing tactic. It would be very ironic especially as it’s something that Hallie has already done herself.
I think he'll apologise aswell.

I got a little annoyed with Zak in the CEO task ,when it felt like he was trying to be rebellious and show off. But I wonder if he just enjoys misbehaving for whatever reason , whether it's boredom, or insecurity or ADHD.... I've no idea ( I'm not diagnosing him lol)...but I wouldn't be surprised if he was ADHD.

And I agree .....Hailie will accept his apology to his face ,and then run to her surrogate mother Kerry to have a sour bitch about him.

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I think he's a wind up merchant. Not goodif you're in the House. It will make you an easy target.
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I think he's a wind up merchant. Not goodif you're in the House. It will make you an easy target.
Lewis G flashbacks , hopefully Zak won't get as bad as that though.
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I don't think he is sexist per say

He just doesn't value women very much
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ngl I was horrified what I saw re: Noky.. I thought that was borderline assault and while Kerry and Olivia were laughing uncomfortably, I'm really not sure what Noky thought the poor girl had only walked past
What part was borderline assault?
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