[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Voters finally starting to trust Labour again. Starmer's response to the attack on Israel has played a big part in that

No
Reform Party took the Conservative voters
in both seats

Thats why Labour Won

[arista]

The Numbers prove it

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

It was Reform Party
that halted the Conservative wins

Take out the Reform votes
Conservative would have won.


Ref: Political Reporter Christopher Hope

Very lame excuse that.

There's not a single guarantee that all the Reform party's votes would have gone to the Cons.
I know of people who vote Reform because they wouldn't want to even vote Con.

Plus there's not a single guarantee that all the people who voted for the Reform party, would all have still gone out to vote if Reform hadn't stood.

You may as well say had the Greens not stood Labour could have got a bigger majority.
Again, there's no guarantee that would happen either.

[arista]

Sure Joey

But the Amount Reform Party took from
the Conservative side
on both elections was massive
Both Over 1000

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure Joey

But the Amount Reform Party took from
the Conservative side
on both elections was massive
Both Over 1000

No doubt.

However it cannot be said for sure that all those votes would have been given to the Cons if Reform hadn't stood.
Had Reform NOT stood those voters may well have just not bothered to come out and vote at all.

There is NO divine right that all Reform party voters would have to vote Con.
That's ridiculous assumption.

[LeatherTrumpet]

twice now i have read this thread as "DOUBLE EVICTION"

[arista]

Joey
it's how the Numbers are worked out


Like in 2019
Farage helped Boris Johnson
who got a massive Win.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

twice now i have read this thread as "DOUBLE EVICTION"

Nice Photo of the Late & Great
Randy Savage

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Joey
it's how the Numbers are worked out


Like in 2019
Farage helped Boris Johnson
who got a massive Win.

I think as is usual Farage overestimates his own importance and exaggerates his success.
Johnson's Cons would have won in 2019 anyhow.

[bitontheslide]

People voted to get Brexit over with in 2019. The fringe parties don't stand a chance at the next election

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

People voted to get Brexit over with in 2019. The fringe parties don't stand a chance at the next election

Of course
but they can affect the result.

[arista]