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Old 05-11-2023, 08:53 AM #1
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Black people don’t always extend mercy and stick with each other anyway (tribalism for one thing can be a huge issue) and like I said that’s with people who are fully black. When you’re literally half and half you can’t expect black people to automatically see and treat you as exactly the same. Like you say it’s more about personalities and worth as housemates than the colour of their skin anyway. If you’re in, you’re in and if you’re booted out you’re out. Whether you’re black, white, yellow or purple. It’s not about that.
Do Mixed race communities still face a lot of prejudice?

I knew it was bad back in my School days, but that was nearly a decade ago now, which makes me feel pretty old.
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I knew it was bad back in my School days, but that was nearly a decade ago now, which makes me feel pretty old.
I don’t know. It’s hard to say on anything other than an individual basis. But they ain’t getting it as bad as fully black people have been known to. No way.
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I don’t know. It’s hard to say on anything other than an individual basis. But they ain’t getting it as bad as fully black people have been known to. No way.
Oh historically especially fully black people have had a really rough ride, along with the Jewish community imo.
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Oh historically especially fully black people have had a really rough ride, along with the Jewish community imo.
Yeah, there’s no doubt about that. None whatsoever.

There’s no point getting into politics here but there’s also no point denying how bad and ugly anti-black racism and anti-Semitism are inherently. Sometimes it’s just a case of cultural ignorance which isn’t maliciously intended, like when (I’m just throwing out random examples) black people KMT/kiss their teeth or store jollof rice they cooked in ice-cream tubs like Nigerian mums stereotypically do and some of the white people around them not only just don’t get it or the sub-cultural context but go around telling people they’re mega-weird and tapped in the head for just acting like a lot of normal black Brits with strong inherited sub-cultural niches and habits. Sometimes likewise it’s just a case of pretending like Hitler was actually a decent guy and running off with a few anti-Semitic jokes off the back of that (it’s alright when it happens on Family Guy because they take the piss out of literally everyone and everything) but however it’s meant stuff like that can do serious damage to your mental health and the way affected people then navigate around a certain type of white space, creating more barriers but based on understandable negative experiences with people who just don’t vibe with you and are very keen to point that out.

When people’s cultural habits and positive generational customs (it doesn’t matter how assimilated they are into just regular mainstream British culture or where they were born because cultural quirks and attitudes do tend to rub off to at least a certain extent, and that’s actually needed for preservation) are mocked and pathologised off the bat, you’re not really going to feel comfortable and over time you might well start to become more cynical, bitter and angry about the way you view white people and/or non-Jews if you’ve been affected by all that crap one-too-many times. Or maybe it only happened to you the once but the extent of the raggedy-ness was so bad that you ain’t going to let it go. So modern racial ignorance (if not outright racism) isn’t just about pointing out non-existent micro-aggressions (because a lot of black people do truly see white people and the way they interact with them in certain spaces as more racist than they are, and it’s a shame) and trying to make everyone an ally for anti brutality from cops in the States based on George Floyd’s experience (although that’s another thing in itself). It’s not about waiting to be called the n-word or a monkey for having plantain and Maggi cubes in your cupboard either. Sometimes it’s a level of gaslighting and disrespect for certain unspoken sub-cultural boundaries that can make a lot of black people give up on wanting or expecting to be accommodated by white people altogether (except quality entertainment/TV that doesn’t have strong racial undertones either way), which like I kind of implied before (or even said directly and outright) adds to that clannish only-stick-with-your-own-kind mentality.

But as you said all this is with more fully black people. Mixed race people are literally neither here nor there when it comes to things like this. They get a little bit of it and historically there’s been a lot of vile stuff written about interracial marriages/inter-breeding (wasn’t even legal at one point) but nothing on the magnitude of anti-black racism or anti-Semitism. Unless they’re very dark-skinned mixed race (skin tone can vary with 50-50s from very light to very dark) and look properly black they ain’t getting treated as inherently badly as black-black people have been. Unless they’re Jewish or Muslim, they’re not really getting any ethno-religious persecution either. Black mandem/gyal-dem are more likely to accept a mixed race person as one of their own than white people (some people actually still go by the one-drop rule, which is kinda racist in itself) but it shouldn’t have to come to that anyway. All you share in common are certain experiences, cultural convergence and upbringing similarities. Everyone’s still their own person regardless of colour or creed.
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