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they said Doc wouldn't understand because he's male-presenting.
To be fair, with The Doctor now canonically being able to regenerate as either male or female, this could be seen as a much more literal turn of phrase.

Though it does seem to overlook poor Jodie and the fact that he was very recently female for several decades (centuries?).
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To be fair, with The Doctor now canonically being able to regenerate as either male or female, this could be seen as a much more literal turn of phrase.
Truuuuueeee, though I'm not sure about how much of Doc's recent past the Meta-Crisis would inform Donna and Rose

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Though it does seem to overlook poor Jodie and the fact that he was very recently female for several decades (centuries?).
Hmm, Doc unlearning or outright forgetting lessons learned isn't anything new tbh - even without regenerating Thirteen's personality wasn't informed or overly changed by being female, and Eleven+Twelve+Missy all have said something which suggests that gender (apparent sex of current incarnation) means a lot less to Time Lords than humans.
So Thirteen probably wouldn't have the womanly wisdom to pass on to Fourten in the first place. But if she DID, Fourten could easily have lost it!
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Truuuuueeee, though I'm not sure about how much of Doc's recent past the Meta-Crisis would inform Donna and Rose



Hmm, Doc unlearning or outright forgetting lessons learned isn't anything new tbh - even without regenerating Thirteen's personality wasn't informed or overly changed by being female, and Eleven+Twelve+Missy all have said something which suggests that gender (apparent sex of current incarnation) means a lot less to Time Lords than humans.
So Thirteen probably wouldn't have the womanly wisdom to pass on to Fourten in the first place. But if she DID, Fourten could easily have lost it!
True to be fair, they're not so much talking about the experience of being female as the experience of being a Western human female. There's no real reason to assume that aliens who happen to look human have the same gender differences as humans. But then... ... ... it would of course be more accurate for them to say that The Doctor wouldn't understand because they're not human, rather than because they're not female.
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