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Old 03-12-2023, 08:59 PM #1
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You are making out the Royals are an upstanding family of angels when history shows they are far from it .. there are gaffs going back decades in the public domain just imagine what they’re like behind closed doors


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I'm making out no such thing. They are fallible human beings like the rest of us - if we were under such continuous scrutiny few of us would fare any better.
There is no evidence whatsoever that the Monarchy is racist - but you seem to really want them to be proved as such. Why?
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I'm making out no such thing. They are fallible human beings like the rest of us - if we were under such continuous scrutiny few of us would fare any better.
There is no evidence whatsoever that the Monarchy is racist - but you seem to really want them to be proved as such. Why?

The most notorious of the Prince’s comments was made in 1986 during his first and only state visit to China. Philip met with British university students who were studying Mandarin in Xi’an, telling one of them: “By the time you go back home you’ll have slitty eyes.”
The student, 21-year-old Simon Kirby, explained that the UK students didn’t live with their Chinese counterparts. Philip continued: “So [the Chinese] don’t want to mix with the barbarians.” A comment made in Australia in 2002 to an Indigenous Australian entrepreneur came a close scandalous second. Philip asked: “Do you still throw spears at each other?”


Philip once asked Lord Taylor of Warwick: ‘And what exotic part of the world do you come from?’ That’s because Lord Taylor is black.

When he once visited an electronics factory in Scotland and came across a “messy fuse box”, he exclaimed it looked ‘as though it was put in by an Indian’.”


The late Queen Liz had, for a good period of time, a household ban on hiring staff of colour, making herself exempt from racial equality laws. Due to applied pressures she conceded to employ some as menial servants.

The Queen's chief financial manager told civil servants that "it was not, in fact, the practice to appoint coloured immigrants or foreigners" to clerical roles, but they were allowed to be hired as domestic servants.

Even superficial changes, such as renaming the empire honours awards to make them less offensive, she refused to do.

The perception of the Queen as a harmless, benevolent older woman, hid the insidious racism of the monarchy, both past and present.


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The most notorious of the Prince’s comments was made in 1986 during his first and only state visit to China. Philip met with British university students who were studying Mandarin in Xi’an, telling one of them: “By the time you go back home you’ll have slitty eyes.”
The student, 21-year-old Simon Kirby, explained that the UK students didn’t live with their Chinese counterparts. Philip continued: “So [the Chinese] don’t want to mix with the barbarians.” A comment made in Australia in 2002 to an Indigenous Australian entrepreneur came a close scandalous second. Philip asked: “Do you still throw spears at each other?”


Philip once asked Lord Taylor of Warwick: ‘And what exotic part of the world do you come from?’ That’s because Lord Taylor is black.

When he once visited an electronics factory in Scotland and came across a “messy fuse box”, he exclaimed it looked ‘as though it was put in by an Indian’.”


The late Queen Liz had, for a good period of time, a household ban on hiring staff of colour, making herself exempt from racial equality laws. Due to applied pressures she conceded to employ some as menial servants.

The Queen's chief financial manager told civil servants that "it was not, in fact, the practice to appoint coloured immigrants or foreigners" to clerical roles, but they were allowed to be hired as domestic servants.

Even superficial changes, such as renaming the empire honours awards to make them less offensive, she refused to do.

The perception of the Queen as a harmless, benevolent older woman, hid the insidious racism of the monarchy, both past and present.


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You are harking back to a completely different time and generation when people thought nothing of enjoying programmes like ‘the black and white minstrel show’, and comedies like ‘Till death us to part’ and ‘love thy neighbour’ which were full of iffy jokes. It didn’t mean they were necessarily racist.

Harry and Meghan issued a statement soon after the Oprah interview saying that neither Prince Philip nor the Queen had anything to do with the comments they were complaining about.

Have a look at these 2 sites:
https://www.royal.uk/queen-elizabeth...and%20cultures.

https://www.princestrustglobal.org/ (Charles’s lifelong passion)

When Charles was the Prince of Wales he got flack for saying that when he became KIng, he didn’t want to be the ‘defender of the faith’ (Christian) but a defender of all faiths.

Royals must be totally crap at being racists.

Taking heed of what sheriff said about there is no reasoning with you, this is my last attempt to put my points across to you on this subject.
We do agree on other things, so see you around!
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You are harking back to a completely different time and generation when people thought nothing of enjoying programmes like ‘the black and white minstrel show’, and comedies like ‘Till death us to part’ and ‘love thy neighbour’ which were full of iffy jokes. It didn’t mean they were necessarily racist.

Harry and Meghan issued a statement soon after the Oprah interview saying that neither Prince Philip nor the Queen had anything to do with the comments they were complaining about.

Have a look at these 2 sites:
https://www.royal.uk/queen-elizabeth...and%20cultures.

https://www.princestrustglobal.org/ (Charles’s lifelong passion)

When Charles was the Prince of Wales he got flack for saying that when he became KIng, he didn’t want to be the ‘defender of the faith’ (Christian) but a defender of all faiths.

Royals must be totally crap at being racists.

Taking heed of what sheriff said about there is no reasoning with you, this is my last attempt to put my points across to you on this subject.
We do agree on other things, so see you around!

It’s all good .. we all have our differing views on a variety of issues.

Other than Di and Harry I’ve no time for the royals and never will have


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I'm making out no such thing. They are fallible human beings like the rest of us - if we were under such continuous scrutiny few of us would fare any better.
There is no evidence whatsoever that the Monarchy is racist - but you seem to really want them to be proved as such. Why?
Unfortunately jet you can’t reason with zizu he has shown in other threads, once he gets something in his head it takes over

We all know by now that harry and Meghan not only twisted the truth but blatantly told lies to fit their own agendas

They have made themselves a laughing stock around the world
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Unfortunately jet you can’t reason with zizu he has shown in other threads, once he gets something in his head it takes over

We all know by now that harry and Meghan not only twisted the truth but blatantly told lies to fit their own agendas

They have made themselves a laughing stock around the world

It’s true I am impulsive/compulsive

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