[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

According to the news and press, “it is not clear if the contact was a phone, video call or some messages of support”.
If Kate spoke to him directly, I’d give all the kudo’s to her for giving him the time of day, after he implied she was a racist and directed sly and uncalled for digs at her in ‘Spare’.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

No one wants or needs someone like him around them

She's known him for a long time and if it came down to a choice between Harry and Meghan and you two lads on a sinking ship, Kate would punt you both off the lifeboat without a second thought. That's the real sad irony in all of it. He's her family, they've been good friends in the past, she knows him a lot better than you do (obviously) and vice versa... The sheer entitlement you must feel to comment on what relationship they should or shouldn't have, honestly.

[bots]

Family relationships are complicated. If them talking again is good for them then good luck to them

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Family relationships are complicated. If them talking again is good for them then good luck to them

This.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

She's known him for a long time and if it came down to a choice between Harry and Meghan and you two lads on a sinking ship, Kate would punt you both off the lifeboat without a second thought. That's the real sad irony in all of it. He's her family, they've been good friends in the past, she knows him a lot better than you do (obviously) and vice versa... The sheer entitlement you must feel to comment on what relationship they should or shouldn't have, honestly.

Listen to yourself trying yet again to think you know what someone you don’t know would do
She had known him a long time he knew his brother since he was born but that didn’t stop him ripping into two of the closest people he knew not strangers like me and jet but family William being closer to him than Kate, royal blood that’s should be thicker than water

Despite that and Kate trying to be a go between at their grandads funeral he went on to stick the knife in deeper after that

You actually know nothing because if you think Kate will put Harry’s feelings before the father of her kids you are actually thick in the head

They don’t need an untrustworthy two face liar anywhere near them or their family

And like William and Kate comes as a couple
Harry and Meghan come as a couple and she is a snake like her husband that’s why they actually suit each other, both willing to attack their loved ones for a sence of self gain. And growth

So yeah keep talking about irony, soldier boy

[thesheriff443]

I will also add and everyone on here with real life experience will agree with
Betray and hurt a strong woman and she will build a wall that no matter what you do or say in the future you will never past and she will never allow you to get close to her ever again
Yes she will talk to yo but you are nothing to her.

[Maru]

I won't speculate too much, but if I didn't want drama, I would certainly not go looking for it. H&M are drama, if anything.

However with all the medical, and dealing with all that with the "other thing" going off in the background at all times, it would seem to be too much. Perhaps Kate is strong enough in character that she could decide fighting cancer is enough but "I'm doing fine actually, so I can probably deal with this too", etc. So it might be an incentive to take the time to get some things out of the way, off their shoulders and deal with the leftover poison properly. After what she just went through, and is still going through, it might really be a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme... and let's be honest, the media would eat it up. Some of those people would get really mad. Which would be really funny. Because in the end, they're not really our family... they're just getting on like most people do, and most people have problems that they find hard to deal with in their own family structures.

[Ammi]

…I can see that it’s been said by a few sources that ‘it’s thought…’ or ‘it’s believed…’ type wording but I don’t know that there is anything other than media speculation again that there has been any direct contact…/…Kate has asked for privacy in all aspects so that to me would indicate nothing confirmed unless she or a representative etc directly inform with anything updated…it feels as though the media and many of their ‘royal sources’ will find a way to continue to earn their income from any aspect of health concerns…I really don’t know what direct family contact there has been but it feels doubtful that William and Kate’s priority or thought has been to inform royal media’s or that their team has felt that’s of relevant public information just after the request for family privacy….

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Listen to yourself trying yet again to think you know what someone you don’t know would do
She had known him a long time he knew his brother since he was born but that didn’t stop him ripping into two of the closest people he knew not strangers like me and jet but family William being closer to him than Kate, royal blood that’s should be thicker than water

Despite that and Kate trying to be a go between at their grandads funeral he went on to stick the knife in deeper after that

You actually know nothing because if you think Kate will put Harry’s feelings before the father of her kids you are actually thick in the head

They don’t need an untrustworthy two face liar anywhere near them or their family

And like William and Kate comes as a couple
Harry and Meghan come as a couple and she is a snake like her husband that’s why they actually suit each other, both willing to attack their loved ones for a sence of self gain. And growth

So yeah keep talking about irony, soldier boy

The levels of delusion when you actually write out an argument for why you think Kate Middleton would legitimately pick two random middle aged blokes off the internet over her own brother in law. Holy crap Sheriff. I'd laugh but it's not even funny... how do you end up believing that the landed gentry meaningfully give one toss if you live or die? I mean by all means be fans of the Royal Family or whatever but don't flat out lie to yourself, surely. Any one of them would watch an entire town be swallowed into the belly of hell before they'd sacrifice each other. No one with wealth and privilege cares about you, why on earth would you think they do.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I can see that it’s been said by a few sources that ‘it’s thought…’ or ‘it’s believed…’ type wording but I don’t know that there is anything other than media speculation again that there has been any direct contact…/…Kate has asked for privacy in all aspects so that to me would indicate nothing confirmed unless she or a representative etc directly inform with anything updated…it feels as though the media and many of their ‘royal sources’ will find a way to continue to earn their income from any aspect of health concerns…I really don’t know what direct family contact there has been but it feels doubtful that William and Kate’s priority or thought has been to inform royal media’s or that their team has felt that’s of relevant public information just after the request for family privacy….

It will have come from Harry and Meghans PR according to sources messages have been sent, like you say the last thing Kate and Wills will be concerned with will be confirming anything

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It will have come from Harry and Meghans PR according to sources messages have been sent, like you say the last thing Kate and Wills will be concerned with will be confirming anything

…I am beginning to find it all a bit…I don’t know how to put it tbh because I find it strange and odd and ‘uncomfortable’ and distasteful if I’m honest…not with Kate and William themselves but just the whole thing of Kate’s health obviously and any family aspect relating to it being more personal because it’s all still unfolding and developing as people have been informed…/…all family members, specifically, from near and far as it were…it’s been requested for privacy to be be respected and especially in respect for their children …and yet their PR/their own personal part of the ‘firm’ is relating a personal apparent family contact to the media…it’s just not feeling that it’s come from the palace in any context at all for me…what Harry or Harry and Meghan have or haven’t said in any private and personal context is something that is doubtful that would be media shared at this moment are my personal thoughts….

[Ammi]

…I mean in all seriousness, I would look at reviewing my PR staff if that’s what they’re genuinely relating to the national and world media’s…barely moments after Kate has asked for privacy …as opposed to their team reinforcing those requested privacies…


…edited to say that I just can’t see that this has indeed come from any royal/palace team but more that it’s media speculation of the same old that they’re prone to…

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The levels of delusion when you actually write out an argument for why you think Kate Middleton would legitimately pick two random middle aged blokes off the internet over her own brother in law. Holy crap Sheriff. I'd laugh but it's not even funny... how do you end up believing that the landed gentry meaningfully give one toss if you live or die? I mean by all means be fans of the Royal Family or whatever but don't flat out lie to yourself, surely. Any one of them would watch an entire town be swallowed into the belly of hell before they'd sacrifice each other. No one with wealth and privilege cares about you, why on earth would you think they do.

I have no idea why you continue to bang this particular drum, you haven't invented the wheel! I have yet to see you comment negatively on Harry and Meghan or any of their lies, yes you say you have no side to take in this argument? you spent hours defending Amber Heard but that is okay, is she your friend? not sure Jet or Sherriff have given any indication that they are sure they are about to be adopted by Charles and Camilla any day now, Jet in particular is as you say a Royal Fan ....he knows the history, he is interested in them what is the problem here???? can you explain why you try to put everyone and anything down...you comment on the Royals as much as anyone, and given you say you have no interest that is even more questionable? why are you giving yourself special privilege to comment on everything but that is only for you....everyone else is dumb, or a tub thumper or whatever put down you can find that you hope will inflict maximum hurt ....you seem to take particular pleasure in putting people down, you really need to grow up, this is a thread about a mother with cancer who is in the public eye and who has had horrible things said about her can we not continue that on the thread

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I mean in all seriousness, I would look at reviewing my PR staff if that’s what they’re genuinely relating to the national and world media’s…barely moments after Kate has asked for privacy …as opposed to their team reinforcing those requested privacies…


…edited to say that I just can’t see that this has indeed come from any royal/palace team but more that it’s media speculation of the same old that they’re prone to…

Very true Ammi

[bots]

The last thing any family cares about during times like this is who speaks to whom. I find the media behaviour utterly bizarre. They have lost all grounding on what is and is not news worthy.

To the people that continue to snipe at Kate and Will, it says more about them than it does about anything else

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The last thing any family cares about during times like this is who speaks to whom. I find the media behaviour utterly bizarre. They have lost all grounding on what is and is not news worthy.

To the people that continue to snipe at Kate and Will, it says more about them than it does about anything else

The Media has no soul.

Most of the people working as a Journalist are evil.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The last thing any family cares about during times like this is who speaks to whom. I find the media behaviour utterly bizarre. They have lost all grounding on what is and is not news worthy.

To the people that continue to snipe at Kate and Will, it says more about them than it does about anything else

…oh, I’m not really sure that’s the way of it, tbh…I think they very much have a grounding because Kate …(…and the younger royals in general are so much of public interest and we’re in their parent’s generation also…)…that even those poor royal reporters have to put food on their tables…so when asked for privacy for both Kate and Charles, actually…and much less to report with a thinning down of royal duties taken over by others etc…I think it’s all about the dollar for them and as is sadly, often the way…if any personal contact with Harry is a confirmed thing then why is it reported as different speculation through different and various media’s…anyways, I’m just falling into their ‘well keep ‘em all talking …’ ways so that’s all, really…the whole thing just doesn’t gel right as being anything other than speculation atm…

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The levels of delusion when you actually write out an argument for why you think Kate Middleton would legitimately pick two random middle aged blokes off the internet over her own brother in law. Holy crap Sheriff. I'd laugh but it's not even funny... how do you end up believing that the landed gentry meaningfully give one toss if you live or die? I mean by all means be fans of the Royal Family or whatever but don't flat out lie to yourself, surely. Any one of them would watch an entire town be swallowed into the belly of hell before they'd sacrifice each other. No one with wealth and privilege cares about you, why on earth would you think they do.

You actually think the point of my post was to say me and jet have more chance of being saved from drowning than harry, talk about selective reading.

But lets just say if it was based purely on who has caused Kate to feel betrayed hurt and stress then clearly harry would be floating in the North Sea

I will also add to Cherie’s great post
You have become bitter and spiteful with your reply’s and posts
It’s water off a ducks back to someone like me

But when you start to do it to jet who far more refined and educated than me you really go to a new level of low

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I have no idea why you continue to bang this particular drum, you haven't invented the wheel! I have yet to see you comment negatively on Harry and Meghan or any of their lies, yes you say you have no side to take in this argument?

Because when you're in an environment (TiBB) where the rhetoric is severely unbalanced in favour of one side (full of Royalists) then true impartiality/neutrality involves heavily favouring one side in an (often futile) attempt to offer some sort of balance. If you have a bowl of acid and you come along and add your own PH balancedcup to the mix, you still have a bowl of acid. If you add a cup of alkaline you at least reduce the acidity. You probably still have acid. Maybe that makes sense, maybe it doesn't, but that's the explanation I have to offer and I feel that's quite charitable.

you spent hours defending Amber Heard but that is okay, is she your friend?

The exact same applies. Forum (and really, entire internet) was full of Depp humpers.

not sure Jet or Sherriff have given any indication that they are sure they are about to be adopted by Charles and Camilla any day now

This specific discussion was about the delulu notion that Harry means nothing to Kate and that she would have more time for some random strangers defending her on the internet.

Jet in particular is as you say a Royal Fan ....he knows the history, he is interested in them what is the problem here???? can you explain why you try to put everyone and anything down...

Not in any way that would make any sense to you so I won't waste my time or yours.

you comment on the Royals as much as anyone, and given you say you have no interest that is even more questionable? why are you giving yourself special privilege to comment on everything but that is only for you...

It's a debate forum, of course all of us comment on the thread topics? When have I ever said that people can't or shouldn't comment? But again it's a debate forum - the entire point - ENTIRE point - is disagreeing and trying to find fault in other people's rubbish arguments and flawed thoughts. I'm right here for others to do the same. And they do (try). Being a bit biased there Cherie, it's not really my fault I'm better at it than some others?

If TiBB wants a discussion forum not a debate forum they can change the section title to "serious discussions and news" and I will respectfully leave

everyone else is dumb, or a tub thumper or whatever put down you can find that you hope will inflict maximum hurt...you seem to take particular pleasure in putting people down, you really need to grow up

I'm allowed to think that people's opinions are dumb tub-thumping. Like I said, other people retort or at the very least give it their best effort (including yourself) so I'd put down the stones in that glass house. More people agreeing with you doesn't make you more correct. Especially on this forum. Though it may make you more Right .

this is a thread about a mother with cancer who is in the public eye and who has had horrible things said about her can we not continue that on the thread

Only because of the silly tradition of TiBB thread titles being changed after hundreds of post to fit new information. 90% of this thread was not at all about "a mother with cancer" until we found out that information, very recently. Until then no one knew she had cancer. Hindsight doesn't change 90% of the previous thread content, no matter how many times the title is changed .

Make a new thread about Kate being a mother who has cancer and I'll interact with it accordingly.

[edit] OK so it is actually a new thread because the other one is closed. I'd still make the argument that the debate tends to carry over when threads are closed .

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

But when you start to do it to jet who far more refined and educated than me you really go to a new level of low

You shouldn't do yourself dirty Sheriff, you're more intelligent than jet.

I don't even say that to be offensive really. It's just a fairly obvious fact.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

You shouldn't do yourself dirty Sheriff, you're more intelligent than jet.

I don't even say that to be offensive really. It's just a fairly obvious fact.

At least we can all agree that I'm the Patrick Star of the Forum, in terms of intellect that is.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

You shouldn't do yourself dirty Sheriff, you're more intelligent than jet.

I don't even say that to be offensive really. It's just a fairly obvious fact.

Absolutely no one will agree with you.

See the problem is you have no real interest in the royals but jet not on has an interest but a passion for them

If he was on master mind his main subject would be modern day royals

And that’s what you don’t get or respect.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Absolutely no one will agree with you.

See the problem is you have no real interest in the royals but jet not on has an interest but a passion for them

If he was on master mind his main subject would be modern day royals

And that’s what you don’t get or respect.

Knowledge of a specialist subject isn't the same as intelligence, and expertise shouldn't be biased.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

At least we can all agree that I'm the Patrick Star of the Forum, in terms of intellect that is.

Clever people can do as much damage as someone with an adverse IQ

For example those that invented created weapons to kill like bombs and chemical waepons

[bots]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Knowledge of a specialist subject isn't the same as intelligence, and expertise shouldn't be biased.

neither should intelligence nor entertainment value be defined by personally insulting other forum members. Take a look back at what you have been posting SB, are you proud of yourself?

[Liam-]

The press using Kate’s illness to continue their awful attacks on Harry and Meghan? I am shocked