[Redway]

I roped London into this discussion a while ago but I thought I’d do a thread condensing the choice between the two major northern cities. Personally I think Liverpool’s a far nicer city than Manchester (I like Liverpool, certain parts of Cheshire, Kent and London equally, and then the likes of Manchester and the decent parts of Hampshire) and I’m not just saying that because I’m biased but the individual choice between the two is … up to you.

[LeatherTrumpet]

is there a 3rd choice?

built up, ugly overcrowded hell holes

[Alf]

You're at the wrong end of the M62 there. Hull is cock of the
North.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

is there a 3rd choice?

built up, ugly overcrowded hell holes

What I will say is that the nicest areas of Liverpool are nicer than the nicest areas in Manchester and more affordable than the nicer areas in London, whether they’re both at the same level of quality or not (that’s debatable). You want to see Liverpool at its most potentially beautiful/affluent, you to go Mossley Hill, Gateacre, The Point (affluent West Derby estate), Woolton, the nice side of Croxteth and a few other places like that. If you’re basing Liverpool on the area surrounding the Anfield stadium then of course you’re going to think it’s a bit of a dump.

[LeatherTrumpet]

that said the Open is at Royal Liverpool and the houses down the first are elite

Spoiler:

[joeysteele]

Manchester for me.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

is there a 3rd choice?

built up, ugly overcrowded hell holes

Anniek gonna give you a slap

[Redway]

I like Manchester but only up to a point. I love MediaCity like die but even that’s more of a Salford outlier than anything else. Manchester itself is fine but it lacks the agreeable heart of other cities and can be a bit grim in that sense. I can’t remember whether you’re even allowed to call people chavs anymore but Manchester hooligans either way are the worst type of scum going.

[UserSince2005]

From Manchester originally, but Liverpool city centre is a millions times nicer than Manchesters.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Manchester for me.

its true

if you live in the countryside that built up traffic jam/Manchester is horrendous

[Redway]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

From Manchester originally, but Liverpool city centre is a millions times nicer than Manchesters.

They gave parts of Liverpool a bit of smoother oomph in 2007/2008 to be fair, starting with the smoothening of the main road on Sefton Park (this was the summer of 2007). Then the L1 expansion and super-lamb banana capital of culture thing in 2008.

[Redrose]

Never been to Liverpool at night but I prefer it in the daytime over Manchester.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Redrose

Never been to Liverpool at night but I prefer it in the daytime over Manchester.

You sure love bumping other people’s threads, don’t you?

[Redrose]

Originally Posted by Redway

You sure love bumping other people’s threads, don’t you?

Yes

[Locke.]

Well you can have a night out here without having to walk 2 miles between every bar so Liverpool automatically wins

[caprimint]

Liverpool and it isn't even close. Manchester is the trash of the country.

[rusticgal]

Neither...I'm a Country girl.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Liverpool and it isn't even close. Manchester is the trash of the country.

More size, better transport (if you don’t drive) and more opportunities for certain things is where Manchester has the upper hand. Otherwise Liverpool is a much, much better city. There’s nothing in Manchester that isn’t in Liverpool, Leeds or Maidstone beyond the fact that Manchester’s just big for the sake of being big. It’s just numbers, not necessarily quality.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Well you can have a night out here without having to walk 2 miles between every bar so Liverpool automatically wins

Most of the people who slag off Liverpool have never even been. But it didn’t come up 7th in that little world’s best cities yada-yada for nothing at all. In its little way that speaks for itself.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Most of the people who slag off Liverpool have never even been. But it didn’t come up 7th in that little world’s best cities yada-yada for nothing at all. In its little way that speaks for itself.

Yeah I went a few years ago and expected to see a dump but it was a beautiful city


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yeah I went a few years ago and expected to see a dump but it was a beautiful city


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It sure is. I’d be asking anyone who dumps on it if they’ve actually ever been. Especially to the nicer areas beyond just town. There’s beauty up and down the UK and the rest of the world but for some people being contained to an insular Southern bubble is a flex. Reality-checking says otherwise, still. There are certain things London has to offer (at least on a certain scale) that are unique to just there or at least other mega-cities but even taking that into account there’s more cohesive history and authenticity in places like Liverpool, and better value for money if you’re not stinking-rich. A consultant surgeon in Liverpool could effectively afford a 5-bedroom mini-mansion by where the likes of Steven Gerrard live but in London there are still doctors who are trying to make it out of Peckham but just want to be in London at whatever cost and price so have to stay put until they can afford to move to a better area. Not good.

And I’m not saying a city that has so much diversity in chocka numbers, variety and blah-de-blah is awful. But unless you’ve got money to burn it’s not that great to live in at the best of times either and it can feel a little soulless and overly out-for-self sometimes. So you’ve just got to remember the underrated underdogs and tap in if-and-when. Liverpool’s always there to touch base with whenever you need to. Being the pool of life. You take your sip from it and go wherever you need to go, whether that’s in Liverpool, Chester, Tottenham, Dublin, Lagos, South Carolina, Australia or Jupiter. Or all those places. But definitely as people we need to get out of this habit of cultural insularity.

Roxy Mitchell is converting herself to Scouse in real time as we speak and I bet she’s loving it. Someone’ll bump into her on Lark Lane one Saturday afternoon soon enough.

[Redway]

I mean. I’ve come to appreciate certain aspects of Manny more and more over the past 2 months, but still.

[LaLaLand]

Liverpool by far. Fantastic little city.