[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Nobody ever thought of the stick that James Blunt got and the affect that had on his mental health. People even used to say so and so was a blunt in a cockney style

Tbf, some of the abuse that James Blunt got back in the day were really harsh imo.

There's nothing wrong with having a laugh about a singer that you don't personally like, but some singers do tend to attract an obsessive detraction base.

For example Nickelback is another artist where the hatred that a lot of people have for them is imo unhealthy and actually disproportionate to anything that they've done.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf, some of the abuse that James Blunt got back in the day were really harsh imo.

There's nothing wrong with having a laugh about a singer that you don't personally like, but some singers do tend to attract an obsessive detraction base.

For example Nickelback is another artist where the hatred that a lot of people have for them is imo unhealthy and actually disproportionate to anything that they've done.

I 100% agree again.
I quite like James Blunt myself
He's made some really strong recordings

As with Olly Alexander too, there's been a real minor disproportionate negative response to Eurovision.

I mean really, I love Eurovision myself for the songs, the acts and way out performances.
However is it now a really serious and even fair competion.
I don't mean that just as to the UK but to other Nations too.
I think you mentioned Germany and I'd agree there too.

Anyhow Olly picked himself up, got going again

Planning new tour dates and has a new album to come out very soon too.
Which his fanbase is eagerly awaiting the release date of.

So the news is all good.

I'll never understand the unhealthy dislike of singers.
People either like their music or don't.
There are so many artistes and so many types of music too.
Concentrate on the ones liked rather than the ones not liked is what I do.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I 100% agree again.
I quite like James Blunt myself
He's made some really strong recordings

As with Olly Alexander too, there's been a real minor disproportionate negative response to Eurovision.

I mean really, I love Eurovision myself for the songs, the acts and way out performances.
However is it now a really serious and even fair competion.
I don't mean that just as to the UK but to other Nations too.
I think you mentioned Germany and I'd agree there too.

Anyhow Olly picked himself up, got going again

Planning new tour dates and has a new album to come out very soon too.
Which his fanbase is eagerly awaiting the release date of.

So the news is all good.

I'll never understand the unhealthy dislike of singers.
People either like their music or don't.
There are so many artistes and so many types of music too.
Concentrate on the ones liked rather than the ones not liked is what I do.

I agree with you 100% on your points Joey.

And yes it was Germany that I mentioned, I mean their Blood & Glitter song last year did not deserve to be dead last imo, and I remember feeling similar about a couple of their other entries.

And good luck to Olly on his new Album, he should use his Eurovision experience as a point to prove his detractors wrong.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf, some of the abuse that James Blunt got back in the day were really harsh imo.

There's nothing wrong with having a laugh about a singer that you don't personally like, but some singers do tend to attract an obsessive detraction base.

For example Nickelback is another artist where the hatred that a lot of people have for them is imo unhealthy and actually disproportionate to anything that they've done.

I always presumed that Nickelback’s hatred came from everyone being sick of their song being number one for months


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[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I always presumed that Nickelback’s hatred came from everyone being sick of their song being number one for months


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That didn't help.

And I suspect (and I do hate to be the one that keeps bringing this up in discussions) that some guys didn't like the fact that their girlfriends were fancying the lead singer, I'm willing to make a bet that some (not all) had that level of insecurity about their relationship.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That didn't help.

And I suspect (and I do hate to be the one that keeps bringing this up in discussions) that some guys didn't like the fact that their girlfriends were fancying the lead singer, I'm willing to make a bet that some (not all) had that level of insecurity about their relationship.

What ?

Women fancied this guy ??!




I’ll never understand women


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[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Zizu

What ?

Women fancied this guy ??!




I’ll never understand women


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Well I know that some women did back in the day.

And I also think that my Mom did to some extent too, although nowhere near as much as Ronan Keating or David Beckham.

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I watched clips on YT , Olly's voice was weak & forgettable it's as simple as that . And the staging was not going to make him win , it was obviously done as a silly distraction, that's literally all I remember ,I don't remember the tune.

And before people keep moaning about Olly getting criticism, it's the Eurovision ....where everyone is judged and scrutinised.

Olly's voice just wasn't up to it, and the song was dull. Even Switzerland out shined him , Nemo could actually sing , despite the obvious bias politics going on.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I watched clips on YT , Olly's voice was weak & forgettable it's as simple as that . And the staging was not going to make him win , it was obviously done as a silly distraction, that's literally all I remember ,I don't remember the tune.

And before people keep moaning about Olly getting criticism, it's the Eurovision ....where everyone is judged and scrutinised.

Olly's voice just wasn't up to it, and the song was dull. Even Switzerland out shined him , Nemo could actually sing , despite the obvious bias politics going on.

I will accept that his voice wasn’t brilliant on the night BUT he was jumping around and contorting his body into crazy positions PLUS he is a naturally nervous guy so having the weight of his nation on his shoulders obviously took its toll and it’s been reported that the UK entry had sound issues.

He has got an absolutely beautiful voice though as he’s proved over the years with countless live tv performances where he’s in the minority of singing live rather than miming


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I watched clips on YT , Olly's voice was weak & forgettable it's as simple as that . And the staging was not going to make him win , it was obviously done as a silly distraction, that's literally all I remember ,I don't remember the tune.

And before people keep moaning about Olly getting criticism, it's the Eurovision ....where everyone is judged and scrutinised.

Olly's voice just wasn't up to it, and the song was dull. Even Switzerland out shined him , Nemo could actually sing , despite the obvious bias politics going on.

.... .and that's your view which you have every right to have and express

Just the same as those like myself who are strong fans of Olly.
Who also see Eurovision differently and would disagree
As it's moved a long way now from being just a song, really song contest.

I've actually only watched the stagings of ALL the Eurovision entries twice.
On the semi finals night on the BBC.
Plus on the Final itself.

I don't think after any Eurovision I've ever looked again at a video of any entrant over the years following.
Certainly I'd never even think of doing so on one I didn't even like .

Eurovision is now past
It's unlikely here in the UK we will hear little to even nothing eventually of Nemo from Switzerland soon.
Or any other of the entrants this year.

By the end of the year we'll be looking to the next Eurovision and I'd suspect some other unfortunate sacrificial British singer putting themselves forward for crumbs of votes from either the juries or the public
Which has been the usual norm for the vast majority of UK entrants over the last 25 years.