[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…so it’s not really National Service, then…

Who knows Ammi ???

Where Sunak's thinking comes from who can REALLY know how his mind works.

It cannot however be ANY service that's voluntary if it's going to be mandatory.
Surely Sunak isn't that stupid that he cannot realise that .

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…so it’s not really National Service, then…

It is an Old War type one


You can help on other things (unpaid)

Or

Military (get paid)

[joeysteele]

It's badly thought out nonsense.

[DemRed]

Fishi sunak is following israel footsteps... Force teenagers into army.

[DemRed]

Originally Posted by Denver

It's funny how everyone who is supporting this didn't actually do national service themselves, maybe we should backdate it and have them go first

Oh I don't know. I think some people on here likely did, going by their attitude.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by DemRed

Oh I don't know. I think some people on here likely did, going by their attitude.

sigh

ageism is a nice look

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf it is hypocritical for people who never had to go through National Service when they were teens, to now want to push National Service onto the current generation of teens.

You should never wish for something to happen to people that you wouldn't want to have happened to you.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Denver

It's funny how everyone who is supporting this didn't actually do national service themselves, maybe we should backdate it and have them go first

.

[arista]

Originally Posted by DemRed

Fishi sunak is following israel footsteps... Force teenagers into army.

Its OK
he (Sunak) can not.

Focus Groups gave Sunak the idea


Wasted From pages on it
I had to chuck them on the Election thread

Sunak not going to Win

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Denver

It's funny how everyone who is supporting this didn't actually do national service themselves, maybe we should backdate it and have them go first

…with any mandatory service, lead by example …?…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by DemRed

Fishi sunak is following israel footsteps... Force teenagers into army.

…it kind of manipulates unemployment figures, doesn’t it……actually it’s probably manipulative of lots of things…/statistics…

[arista]

[Cherie]

Its great being old for a change

[Cherie]

They should have rebranded, its not National Service per se he is proposing as it is voluntary... I was listening to a debate on this a few weeks back and its not about going into the trenches, its more about cyber attacks and modern warfare and utilising peoples skills in a way that would protect the country in the event of war

[arista]

Does not need to be rebranded

It is all after the Election

[arista]

[bitontheslide]

we are a whisker away from nato being dragged in to a war. What do people think happens then?

Both labour and the tories have committed to increases in defence spending. What do people think that means?

We need to be prepared, because we are a small country with a tiny armed services. Would people rather that people got some training, or would they prefer what Russia have been doing, anhd sending 18 year olds, completely untrained, to the front. line.

I get it, it is a scary thing to think about, but would people really rather bury their heads in the sand and wait till it happens? or get prepared now

[AnnieK]

The threat of something happening is definitely increasing. My son goes to Army cadets and they have now been told not to travel to their parade nights each week in their uniform as it raises their threat of being attacked.

I'm not in favour of National Service but we do need investment in our military.....the world is a scary place at the moment

[joeysteele]

As for James (not so) Cleverley interviewed this morning, well he made a right mess of trying yo explain it.

Obviously he's just had this plucked out of the air idea foisted on to him.

Then he says it wouldn't be criminal to refuse it.
What on earth?
Do they really listen to themselves.

[LeatherTrumpet]

I think the Swiss have it and Nordic countries and Germany are also set to introduce it

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think the Swiss have it and Nordic countries and Germany are also set to introduce it

Yes they all need to
While Putin is alive

[Livia]

I bet the Army is shuddering thinking about taking in the average 18 year old. Heaven knows who's going to fight our wars in the future.

[Cherie]

I think we have to be realistic its going to happen whatever government get in

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It's badly thought out nonsense.

It is, and a lot of people even of that young age are either not physically or mentally fit for service. Even something minor can preclude people from signing up. My brother enlisted in the army at 18 and was discharged due to hay-fever. Just one example.

I'm not averse however to the voluntary aspect, if they have enough respect to do it willingly.

[Glenn.]

I think just being able to afford food is what people want for the minute