[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This electoral system is a massive stain on real democracy.

It has little to do with votes in the end, it's all down to the seats targeted and won.

I've now argued years for it to end and to have PR.
The vote in 2011 was NOT about real PR.
AV wouldn't have altered the governing process in more than 3 elections since the war

There's doesn't need to be any referendum on PR.
All for instance Labour would need to do as it will NEVER be supported by the Conservative Party.
Is accept the Labour conferences overwhelmingly supporting PR now, put it in the next manifesto.
IF they win that next election then implement it for the next one

He'd be guaranteed a massive win again, because all Parties including Reform would be supporting them on it.

I will along with I'd estimate, 90% of other Labour members, trade unionists and even Labour MPs continually keep making the case for PR.
It's used in Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland for their assembly elections.

I can't stand Reform and Farage particularly.
However to get 14% of the votes and only 5 seats.
As opposed to the Greens lower votes yet getting 4 seats.
Plus the LibDems getting 12% but winning 72 seats.

Just shows how this first past the post system discredits the voting process now rather than is a sign of real democratic elections of governments.

How would PR work with our parliamentary system? We vote for who we'd like to represent our area in parliament.

If the seats were allocated based on country-wide votes, how could we chose our representatives?