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Old 15-07-2024, 06:08 AM #1
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I will always say that I'm happy with Southgate's achievements with England, and that I would be really happy if he were to lead us at the next World Cup.

However he does have to learn that at the final we have to start attacking the opposition, that's two Euro finals now where we have the better players overall, but let ourselves down by being too defensive.

We're at a final, you can't spend about 80 minutes of the game defending, and only attack for 10 minutes.

Thats always been his style .. and he had 4 competitions to get things right


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It's different in group stages, because you can flop hard in one game and still recover.

And tbf with England I felt like we were slowly getting better with each game at the knockouts, I think that we had our personal best performance against Netherlands for example, it's the only match this tournament that I would say England genuinely played well.

But the final was a few steps backwards and not acceptable, because it's the final so you can't hope to fluke a win off of about 2 or 3 clear cut chances, you need to be having at least 5 to 6 good chances to win because the opposition is much more likely to score against you in the final than in any other round of the competition, and Spain did.
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It's different in group stages, because you can flop hard in one game and still recover.

And tbf with England I felt like we were slowly getting better with each game at the knockouts, I think that we had our personal best performance against Netherlands for example, it's the only match this tournament that I would say England genuinely played well.

But the final was a few steps backwards and not acceptable, because it's the final so you can't hope to fluke a win off of about 2 or 3 clear cut chances, you need to be having at least 5 to 6 good chances to win because the opposition is much more likely to score against you in the final than in any other round of the competition, and Spain did.

Thing is we had the strongest squad

We were in the weakest group

We qualified after 2 games but still played our first eleven needlessly in the third match which could have ensured every squad player get time on the pitch - improved morale
We were given a dubious penalty
We ended up in the easiest side of the draw


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Thing is we had the strongest squad

We were in the weakest group

We qualified after 2 games but still played our first eleven needlessly in the third match which could have ensured every squad player get time on the pitch - improved morale
We were given a dubious penalty
We ended up in the easiest side of the draw


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I still say that the only good team that Spain faced in this tournament was Germany.

Because tbf to England, a lot of the teams in Spain's side of the draw were playing worse than the teams on England's.
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I still say that the only good team that Spain faced in this tournament was Germany.

Because tbf to England, a lot of the teams in Spain's side of the draw were playing worse than the teams on England's.

It will look like that because Spain outplayed everyone easily ..whereas we made mediocre teams look good


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I saw teams like France being dire in the group stages.

Imo the real final had happened when Spain knocked Germany out, everyone else was poor in my view.
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