[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I've never seen danny Dyer in a Bollywood movie.

True.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have.

I'll find some no mark fake suing some company for parity

[Oliver_W]

Tbh the name "Dwight" suggests a toothless yokel who lives in a tunnel. Maybe that was the problem?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Guy sounds like a jerk

Tbf, the business in question does appear to be quite racist here.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

It’s a real, proven thing that companies avoid giving interviews to people with non-white sounding names, hopefully they get sued for a lot of money as punishment for their clear racism

It's the opposite issue to the DEI/positive discrimination companies.

Will any company just hire on merit?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Guy sounds like a jerk

Guy sounds like someone who’s experienced institutional racism, something you’ll never understand in this lifetime.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have.

Don’t mind this clown.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Not being funny but ... it's only a job in a hotel. Why does he care so much?

Why does institutional racism, no matter the context or title of job, hurt so much? Do you people actually hear yourselves?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Redway

Why does institutional racism, no matter the context or title of job, hurt so much? Do you people actually hear yourselves?

It's never actually okay, be it the BBC excluding white people, or a hotel excluding a black person.

The point I was questioning is ... it's a hotel. Why apply multiple times, including under a fake name?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

Guy sounds like someone who’s experienced institutional racism, something you’ll never understand in this lifetime.

You should see this video Redway, the racism is off the chart.

Youtube video

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It's never actually okay, be it the BBC excluding white people, or a hotel excluding a black person.

The point I was questioning is ... it's a hotel. Why apply multiple times, including under a fake name?

You have this kind of privilege that loves perpetual debate, even when it’s not appropriate. I don’t even know what to say to you to be honest.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Redway

You have this kind of privilege that loves perpetual debate, even when it’s not appropriate. I don’t even know what to say to you to be honest.

How'd you mean? I was agreeing that all forms of racism are wrong.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

How'd you mean? I was agreeing that all forms of racism are wrong.

You’re implying that a black man was desperate to get a job because he stuck with the hotel, like that matters at all in the grand scheme of things. I’m sure you have a basic level of “racism is wrong” awareness but your mode of privilege makes you dismiss the extent of other people’s suffering, experiences and determination to prove racial discrimination that they have every right to prove. You might not see it yourself in yourself but it’s very obvious to anyone who’s more aware of the complexities of racism.

Too much assurance in white male privilege, conscious or unconscious, can block you from seeing the full truth and that’s a fact. You’re nowhere near as bad as LT (who deliberately baits and puts a racist narrative on everything involving people of colour) but you do make blunders. You might not be able to see it but that’s kinda the point. Always naively looking for a debate, at whatever cost, no-matter who you subconsciously trample on in the process. It’s very bad.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

You’re implying that a black man was desperate to get a job because he stuck with the hotel, like that matters at all in the grand scheme of things. I’m sure you have a basic level of “racism is wrong” awareness but your mode of privilege makes you dismiss the extent of other people’s suffering, experiences and determination to prove racial discrimination that they have every right to prove. You might not see it yourself in yourself but it’s very obvious to anyone who’s more aware of the complexities of racism.

Too much assurance in white male privilege, conscious or unconscious, can block you from seeing the full truth and that’s a fact. You’re nowhere near as bad as LT (who deliberately baits and puts a racist narrative on everything involving people of colour) but you do make blunders. You might not be able to see it but that’s kinda the point. Always naively looking for a debate, at whatever cost, no-matter who you subconsciously trample on in the process. It’s very bad.

this whole thread is about a guy putting a racist narrative into the fact he is crap at interviews

[Ammi]

…this is t at all about interview performance…it’s about a name change that was implemented to a ‘more white sounding name’ which then gave him an interview opportunity with all other details exactly the same as his original application…/hence the discrimination lawsuit that he’s planning or has filed…

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

this whole thread is about a guy putting a racist narrative into the fact he is crap at interviews

Isn’t the thread about him changing his name TO GET an interview?

[Niamh.]

I wouldn't have thought Dwight was a black sounding name either, like Oliver i would have pictured a white country guy, maybe it's with Jackson as a surname though?

[Niamh.]

**Not that I'm that up on American names or anything

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

**Not that I'm that up on American names or anything

Jackson is reliably found among the top twenty last names in the U.S.
According to WorldNames public profiler, the Jackson surname is found in the
greatest numbers in the U.K. and Australia. It is most prevalent in northern
England, especially Cumbria county.

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There is no way you could prove that the recruiter thought "Dwight Jackson, oh yeah the guy must be black with that name and as a racist I will not give him an interview"


crazy

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Jackson is reliably found among the top twenty last names in the U.S.
According to WorldNames public profiler, the Jackson surname is found in the
greatest numbers in the U.K. and Australia. It is most prevalent in northern
England, especially Cumbria county.

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There is no way you could prove that the recruiter thought "Dwight Jackson, oh yeah the guy must be black with that name and as a racist I will not give him an interview"


crazy

It is a bit strange though that they did reject his CV multiple times until he changed his name. To me the name he chose sounds white/Polish and with stereotypes applied I would think that Polish people have a reputation for being hard working

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It is a bit strange though that they did reject his CV multiple times until he changed his name. To me the name he chose sounds white/Polish and with stereotypes applied I would think that Polish people have a reputation for being hard working

Its nothing more than coincidence playing into his massive shoulder chip

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its nothing more than coincidence playing into his massive shoulder chip

I mean, if everything he's said is correct (which I'm sure he'll have to back up in his law suit) I would say there's more evidence to say he's right and his name change made the difference. I don't know whether they thought he was black or whether they thought he was "white trash" but either way it's discrimination because of his name.

[Ammi]

…I don’t know about surnames but I just found a site that lists some names and their origins…and it is specific to ‘black children chosen names…’…


…anyway, Dwight is listed as a chosen name for male black children…its origin/meaning….

Meaning: “Little and dark”
Origin: Irish
Cultural Significance: Represents the beauty and strength found in diversity.


…its only one site, I’m aware…but its helpful for us to understand why a name might be looked at with discrimination if this case goes through the legal system etc…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I don’t know about surnames but I just found a site that lists some names and their origins…and it is specific to ‘black children chosen names…’…


…anyway, Dwight is listed as a chosen name for male black children…its origin/meaning….

Meaning: “Little and dark”
Origin: Irish
Cultural Significance: Represents the beauty and strength found in diversity.

Well I really hope he wins his case now

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well I really hope he wins his case now

…abso-Irish-lutely….it all just got very serious in the land of green…