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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I agree with that and frankly I'm genuinely baffled that the LGBTQ community itself doesn't have more of an issue with the conflation of gender & sexuality with "kink culture".

I would argue 'til the day I die that homosexuality/bisexuality are absolutely not kinks in any way shape or form. Any reasonable person knows this. Some people would like to paint these things as such and it becomes - surely - much harder to defend the truth when pride marches are being increasingly taken over by furries, age-play, autogynephilia and people in bondage gear. I do personally know multiple gay couples who are lowkey furious about it. I'd have thought there'd be more - but maybe it's just difficult to be outspoken without backlash.

Transgenderism is of course where it all kicks off because trans in itself is not a kink BUT some niche transgenderism is autogynephilic and rooted in kink, and where that is the case, allowing those individuals who identify as trans (but are quite clearly conceptually nothing like the average transperson) into women and children's spaces is where the risk lies.

Basically 99% of the problem could be solved by admitting that there is a clear and distinct difference, and that kink-based transgenderism is NOT in the same category as transgenderism rooted in dysphoria. It is a completely different thing.

And yet all of it is lumped under just one umbrella. Dozens if not hundreds of different social psychologies "grouped" as being thematically similar when they are plainly and simply not.

I get why it happened - a louder voice, and safety in numbers - but honestly I reckon the snake is absolutely starting to eat it's own tail.

Well that's the problem which I've said myself ..... everything is shoved under the same umbrella which is very problematic.

I wish more would stand up against it aswell.