[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Well tell that to the ones dressing inappropriately in kink gear at parades. It keeps being made more & more sexual & adult themed despite families going to these events.

Be as well calling them sex fetish parades

[user104658]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Well tell that to the ones dressing inappropriately in kink gear at parades. It keeps being made more & more sexual & adult themed despite families going to these events.

I agree with that and frankly I'm genuinely baffled that the LGBTQ community itself doesn't have more of an issue with the conflation of gender & sexuality with "kink culture".

I would argue 'til the day I die that homosexuality/bisexuality are absolutely not kinks in any way shape or form. Any reasonable person knows this. Some people would like to paint these things as such and it becomes - surely - much harder to defend the truth when pride marches are being increasingly taken over by furries, age-play, autogynephilia and people in bondage gear. I do personally know multiple gay couples who are lowkey furious about it. I'd have thought there'd be more - but maybe it's just difficult to be outspoken without backlash.

Transgenderism is of course where it all kicks off because trans in itself is not a kink BUT some niche transgenderism is autogynephilic and rooted in kink, and where that is the case, allowing those individuals who identify as trans (but are quite clearly conceptually nothing like the average transperson) into women and children's spaces is where the risk lies.

Basically 99% of the problem could be solved by admitting that there is a clear and distinct difference, and that kink-based transgenderism is NOT in the same category as transgenderism rooted in dysphoria. It is a completely different thing.

And yet all of it is lumped under just one umbrella. Dozens if not hundreds of different social psychologies "grouped" as being thematically similar when they are plainly and simply not.

I get why it happened - a louder voice, and safety in numbers - but honestly I reckon the snake is absolutely starting to eat it's own tail.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I agree with that and frankly I'm genuinely baffled that the LGBTQ community itself doesn't have more of an issue with the conflation of gender & sexuality with "kink culture".

I would argue 'til the day I die that homosexuality/bisexuality are absolutely not kinks in any way shape or form. Any reasonable person knows this. Some people would like to paint these things as such and it becomes - surely - much harder to defend the truth when pride marches are being increasingly taken over by furries, age-play, autogynephilia and people in bondage gear. I do personally know multiple gay couples who are lowkey furious about it. I'd have thought there'd be more - but maybe it's just difficult to be outspoken without backlash.

Transgenderism is of course where it all kicks off because trans in itself is not a kink BUT some niche transgenderism is autogynephilic and rooted in kink, and where that is the case, allowing those individuals who identify as trans (but are quite clearly conceptually nothing like the average transperson) into women and children's spaces is where the risk lies.

Basically 99% of the problem could be solved by admitting that there is a clear and distinct difference, and that kink-based transgenderism is NOT in the same category as transgenderism rooted in dysphoria. It is a completely different thing.

And yet all of it is lumped under just one umbrella. Dozens if not hundreds of different social psychologies "grouped" as being thematically similar when they are plainly and simply not.

I get why it happened - a louder voice, and safety in numbers - but honestly I reckon the snake is absolutely starting to eat it's own tail.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I agree with that and frankly I'm genuinely baffled that the LGBTQ community itself doesn't have more of an issue with the conflation of gender & sexuality with "kink culture".

I would argue 'til the day I die that homosexuality/bisexuality are absolutely not kinks in any way shape or form. Any reasonable person knows this. Some people would like to paint these things as such and it becomes - surely - much harder to defend the truth when pride marches are being increasingly taken over by furries, age-play, autogynephilia and people in bondage gear. I do personally know multiple gay couples who are lowkey furious about it. I'd have thought there'd be more - but maybe it's just difficult to be outspoken without backlash.

Transgenderism is of course where it all kicks off because trans in itself is not a kink BUT some niche transgenderism is autogynephilic and rooted in kink, and where that is the case, allowing those individuals who identify as trans (but are quite clearly conceptually nothing like the average transperson) into women and children's spaces is where the risk lies.

Basically 99% of the problem could be solved by admitting that there is a clear and distinct difference, and that kink-based transgenderism is NOT in the same category as transgenderism rooted in dysphoria. It is a completely different thing.

And yet all of it is lumped under just one umbrella. Dozens if not hundreds of different social psychologies "grouped" as being thematically similar when they are plainly and simply not.

I get why it happened - a louder voice, and safety in numbers - but honestly I reckon the snake is absolutely starting to eat it's own tail.

Well that's the problem which I've said myself ..... everything is shoved under the same umbrella which is very problematic.

I wish more would stand up against it aswell.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Well that's the problem which I've said myself ..... everything is shoved under the same umbrella which is very problematic.

I wish more would stand up against it aswell.

Yep, but it always seems to be the extreme people with the loudest voices sadly they seem to shut everyone else down.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

But even still. If you think of sex when you see a pride flag then that’s a you problem and it’s very weird.

I’m gay and I don’t think about sex when I see a pride flag…

What if you see a bloated old bear all beardy and hairy dancing underneath it clad only in a rubber dildo strap on.? Like you get on saturday afternoons at pride?

[Beso]

They are the people stealing your flag glenn.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I mean it's 100% about attraction, but of course worth remembering that attraction and relationships are not just about sex (very immature to think they are)

This news has shattered my reality.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Well tell that to the ones dressing inappropriately in kink gear at parades. It keeps being made more & more sexual & adult themed despite families going to these events.

Parents tbh shouldn't let their children mix with the strangers in those outfits, just as a precaution.

I'm sure that most of them wearing those outfits are just having a laugh, but parents do have a responsibility to make sure that their children aren't exposed to too much adult material, I'd say the same if children were being exposed to women in kinky outfits too.

If I was a parent taking my child to a Pride Parade, they would only be allowed to talk to the strangers that were dressed in a non-sexual way.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Be as well calling them sex fetish parades

I don't believe that's their main intent.

The Media just love to run negative stories on groups.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Parents tbh shouldn't let their children mix with the strangers in those outfits, just as a precaution.

I'm sure that most of them wearing those outfits are just having a laugh, but parents do have a responsibility to make sure that their children aren't exposed to too much adult material, I'd say the same if children were being exposed to women in kinky outfits too.

If I was a parent taking my child to a Pride Parade, they would only be allowed to talk to the strangers that were dressed in a non-sexual way.

I'm not sure if there's any appropriate parades out there ,they all seem full of adult rated stuff. Every time there's the normal people...it always gets invaded by the more outrageous folk .

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What if you see a bloated old bear all beardy and hairy dancing underneath it clad only in a rubber dildo strap on.? Like you get on saturday afternoons at pride?

Kink should absolutely not be in daytime/"family friendly" Pride events. I can't see any reasonable person disagreeing with that.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What if you see a bloated old bear all beardy and hairy dancing underneath it clad only in a rubber dildo strap on.? Like you get on saturday afternoons at pride?

No.

Anyone that looks a pride flag and immediately thinks of sex is a weirdo. You all know this and if you don’t think that then it’s you that has the problem. If your mind goes straight to sex when you look at a flag then you’re a pervert.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

No.

Anyone that looks a pride flag and immediately thinks of sex is a weirdo. You all know this and if you don’t think that then it’s you that has the problem. If your mind goes straight to sex when you look at a flag then you’re a pervert.

I don't know tbh Glenn.

The American flag always symbolizes sex to me.

Being serious, I think that the Media hasn't helped in all forms (not just Journalistic Media tbf) in the sense that every time there's two gay men on the same set, the Media will always try to find a way of turning it sexual.

I think that the same thing has happened with the Pride and Trans flags too, and in fairness to a lot of the public, constantly being told to (subconsciously of course) think of sex when talking about gay men, it's going to start catching on.

Tbh the Media likes to bogeyman the public when the public in general think of a group in a negative way, and it's the Media a lot of the time that's subtlety spreading the vitriol.

And they would love how divided this Forum is on Politics.

[Glenn.]

There’s a lot of that on here. People talking about gay people and their minds immediately go to sex. It’s perverse.

Such a strange viewpoint. No wonder the bigots are so triggered by everything. They’re sick

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

There’s a lot of that on here. People talking about gay people and their minds immediately go to sex. It’s perverse.

Such a strange viewpoint. No wonder the bigots are so triggered by everything. They’re sick

I agree with you that sometimes on here harmless things to do with LGBT themes can get harshly scrutinized.

I do think that partially though, TV Shows and News Stations do sometimes have a bad habit of emphasizing sexuality over the person as an individual, and as weird as it is to say to some people, but a fair amount of people do get their ideas off of places such as TV and Social Media.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Graphic:
At the family friendly official Portland Pride Parade in downtown
@PortlandGov
on July 21, a man marches in the middle of the street exposing his genitals
and the c—k ring he’s wearing right in front of very small children. The parade is organized by
@PDXPrideNW
.


https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1815146483521654931

[Zizu]

This ‘person’ gets my goat ..

Sky showed a clip of Chelsea women FC earlier with this huge beast rampaging through some poor defenceless defence ..

‘She’ looked a good 6” taller , broad shoulders and more ‘tellingly’ …. ‘she’ ran just like a bloke !!





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[Beso]

Parents should gave their kids taken away from them for exposing them to stuff like that.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Supposed to be a great game.

I've got NBA 2k24 coming out Friday, then AC Mirage and Spiderman 2, so it's going to have to wait a while before I eventually get round to playing it. Pretty sure it's first person, too, so I might not even give it a whizz.

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's on GamePass so personally I'd say just pay the Ł7.99 or whatever for a month's sub and play it on that rather than forking out on Steam.

It's Bethesda though so it will inevitably be a 10x better game in a year when the modding community has torn it apart and rebuilt it, and I doubt you can mod the GamePass version fully (script extenders probably violate the EULA) so I'll be buying a copy eventually. But on release I'd try it out on GamePass. It's only a few Ł.

Originally Posted by Zizu

This ‘person’ gets my goat ..

Sky showed a clip of Chelsea women FC earlier with this huge beast rampaging through some poor defenceless defence ..

‘She’ looked a good 6” taller , broad shoulders and more ‘tellingly’ …. ‘she’ ran just like a bloke !!





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Epic. Chelsea fans, as adoring and historically and will 100% accept this new player.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Graphic:
At the family friendly official Portland Pride Parade in downtown
@PortlandGov
on July 21, a man marches in the middle of the street exposing his genitals
and the c—k ring he’s wearing right in front of very small children. The parade is organized by
@PDXPrideNW
.


https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1815146483521654931

I am sure Glenn will be along shortly to explain this one away, what gets me is no one from the organisers to the participants to the police appear to have anything to say to this guy, apart from the obvious I am sure he is breaking decency laws

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I am sure Glenn will be along shortly to explain this one away, what gets me is no one from the organisers to the participants to the police appear to have anything to say to this guy, apart from the obvious I am sure he is breaking decency laws

what sick parents would take small children to so and watch this

baffling

[Glenn.]

Portland. Which has a naked cycle race annually? That Portland? The same Portland that has many many naturist hotels etc.

[Glenn.]

Also not sure what this has to do with transgender people?