[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Apologise for what?

The pair of them need locking up for neglect. Their neglect got their child kidnapped and probably killed.

No decent parent would leave their children alone, in a foreign country and no decent human being would defend it.

You should write to them to tell them, just in case they do it again

[Livia]

Leaving your child alone is stupid ang neglectful. I imagine the parents have been through hell knowing they contributed to this. Doesn't alter the fact that a monster of a human took this kid. Maddens me that people are so angry with the parents they seem to overlook that fact.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Leaving your child alone is stupid ang neglectful. I imagine the parents have been through hell knowing they contributed to this. Doesn't alter the fact that a monster of a human took this kid. Maddens me that people are so angry with the parents they seem to overlook that fact.

It was preventable.

I hope they do go through hell on a daily basis.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It was preventable.

I hope they do go through hell on a daily basis.

I'm pretty sure they do go through hell on a daily basis and always will.

How about the paedo who took her? You don't ever talk about him and how he should suffer.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

It was a meal not a drinking session and they were checking on the kids throughput the evening

It's never sat right with me that they did this, and whether they went for a meal or out partying/ drinking or even out to the theatre to see a play.... they still abandoned their kids...and it's still neglect. You can't leave 3 small kids alone , we're talking baby & toddler age,not adolescent & teenagers.And even then...it would still be a bit irresponsible,but atleast they'd be older .

3 tiny kids are very vulnerable & need full supervision, and I'm not buying that they were able to keep going back & forth to check on them. Why didn't they take the kids with them to the restaurant and check that it's child friendly?, or better still... just leave them back in the UK with a respectable relative or trusted member to fully babysit. I don't understand why you would take your 3 small children on holiday...to then dump them in a apartment in a foreign setting, while you go out for dinner with friends? . Doesn't make sense to me.

And we all know as I've said before...if this was another Karen Mathews type family,then social services would have been all over this !! .

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm pretty sure they do go through hell on a daily basis and always will.

How about the paedo who took her? You don't ever talk about him and how he should suffer.

He’s where he belongs no? In prison.

Just where her parents should be.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

It's never sat right with me that they did this, and whether they went for a meal or out partying/ drinking or even out to the theatre to see a play.... they still abandoned their kids...and it's still neglect. You can't leave 3 small kids alone , we're talking baby & toddler age,not adolescent & teenagers.And even then...it would still be a bit irresponsible,but atleast they'd be older .

3 tiny kids are very vulnerable & need full supervision, and I'm not buying that they were able to keep going back & forth to check on them. Why didn't they take the kids with them to the restaurant and check that it's child friendly?, or better still... just leave them back in the UK with a respectable relative or trusted member to fully babysit. I don't understand why you would take your 3 small children on holiday...to then dump them in a apartment in a foreign setting, while you go out for dinner with friends? . Doesn't make sense to me.

And we all know as I've said before...if this was another Karen Mathews type family,then social services would have been all over this !! .

Anyone that makes ANY excuse for what they did is vile imo.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

He’s where he belongs no? In prison.

Just where her parents should be.

Is he? Are we sure?

The parents are already serving a life sentence. Not saying they shouldn't... It's that, at some point, the paedo is likely to have served his sentence, if the person incarcerated is even the one responsible. Whatever despicable, unthinkable things he did to that poor child before she died, he gets hardly any hate compared to the parents.

Think it's a but much calling people who don't agree with you, vile.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Anyone that makes ANY excuse for what they did is vile imo.

Empathy & sympathy for parents losing a child I guess? as it must be the worst pain unimaginable .And for poor Madeline's sake...as for a long time a few people were still hoping she'd be found one day...to now realising that she's sadly dead.

Which I understand to a point,but all of this could have been avoided ...if they were more responsible. But the McCann's will forever have to live with their mistake which has cost them their daughter's life.

I still find it off to even say she was "abducted", as the whole thing was very suspicious from the get go...but I don't even want to go down that conspiracy rabbit hole again. But I always found the McCann's to be full of red flags .

I know people won't like this opinion...as it will be taken as me attacking 'grieving parents ', but they're actions & behaviour is very odd .

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Is he? Are we sure?

The parents are already serving a life sentence. Not saying they shouldn't... It's that, at some point, the paedo is likely to have served his sentence, if the person incarcerated is even the one responsible. Whatever despicable, unthinkable things he did to that poor child before she died, he gets hardly any hate compared to the parents.

Think it's a but much calling people who don't agree with you, vile.

Do you not agree that neglecting your child to go out for dinner is wrong then? That anyone that defends that is not really someone to be respected?

Would you leave your children alone to go out for dinner?

[Beso]

Did the other people with the macanns have children on holiday with them?

And shut up glenn, until you've had and lost kids, just shut up about how people should feel.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

Did the other people with the macanns have children on holiday with them?

And shut up glenn, until you've had and lost kids, just shut up about how people should feel.

I won’t shut up.

If you defend parents that LEFT multiple children to go out for dinner then you’re vile.

I can’t even believe there are parents on here that are defending it.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Beso

Did the other people with the macanns have children on holiday with them?

And shut up glenn, until you've had and lost kids, just shut up about how people should feel.

We don't really hear about if their friends had kids or not.But I was wondering if they also left their kids behind.

Point is though....you don't leave 3 small children alone.

If some sicko abducted Madeleine,then they should
throw away the key .

[Beso]

Nobody is defending them, but people are less vile than some by not repeatng it over and over again about grieving parents well aware of their mistake

[Glenn.]

Like do you have to have children to know you shouldn’t leave them unattended in a foreign country or do you have to pass a test?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Like do you have to have children to know you shouldn’t leave them unattended in a foreign country or do you have to pass a test?

What difference does s foreign country make fgs, they shouldnt be left unattended at that age anywhere.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Beso

Nobody is defending them, but people are less vile than some by not repeatng it over and over again about grieving parents well aware of their mistake

it's a bit more than making a little mistake. They actively obstructed the investigation, and thats only 1 part of what they did wrong in the aftermath

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

What difference does s foreign country make fgs, they shouldnt be left unattended at that age anywhere.

Well done

[Glenn.]

If you feel patronised then that’s a you problem

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Beso

What difference does s foreign country make fgs, they shouldnt be left unattended at that age anywhere.

Because it makes it worse that they would leave their kids alone in a unfamiliar setting, surely you would all the more so have your children close by at all times?... Especially in a new environment abroad,where there's more strangers around & the danger is higher.

It's not the same as leaving your kids alone in the back garden in the UK on home turf...( And that would still be bad enough & stupid) but it's far worse in a random apartment on holiday.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Poor Kate and her daughter still worrying

[Glenn.]

The old hag looks positively heartbroken. Imagine thinking you can smile after you let your daughter get kidnapped and murdered.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Could have happened to any family, a child can be snatched in an instant

Poor Kate, that's who I am thinking of today

This wasn't an instant though.....

[Livia]

It worries me some people are gleeful of the McCann's suffering. I also dislike the occasional comparison with the Shannon Matthews case which was an entirely different kettle of fish.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Because it makes it worse that they would leave their kids alone in a unfamiliar setting, surely you would all the more so have your children close by at all times?... Especially in a new environment abroad,where there's more strangers around & the danger is higher.

It's not the same as leaving your kids alone in the back garden in the UK on home turf...( And that would still be bad enough & stupid) but it's far worse in a random apartment on holiday.

Sophie Hook was snatched from a tent in her uncle's back garden in the 90s. She was murdered. Don't remember all the hate directed at her parents. Was it negligent? Yes, probably. Do the parents need their grief compounded by strangers? Definitely not. Same with the McCanns.