[Merry Mockmas]

Hopefully they can finally resolve this case.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Hopefully they can finally resolve this case.

Many doubt that.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by arista

Many doubt that.

I know.

But I just hope for everyone that's personally involved, that they finally get the closure that they deserve.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I know.

But I just hope for everyone that's personally involved, that they finally get the closure that they deserve.

Agreed


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[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I know.

But I just hope for everyone that's personally involved, that they finally get the closure that they deserve.

I doubt they will ever get closure, even if the mystery is solved. I doubt they will ever be able to forgive themselves for the errors they made that night.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Beso

I doubt they will ever get closure, even if the mystery is solved. I doubt they will ever be able to forgive themselves for the errors they made that night.

Oh they'll have to live with that mistake for the rest of their lives.

But if they're not the culprits that harmed her, I'm sure that they'd at least want answers as to what happened that night.

[Urban Cragou]

It’s not ever going to end, is it?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

It’s not ever going to end, is it?

Hopefully it will end with these latest findings and searches ..


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[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I know.

But I just hope for everyone that's personally involved, that they finally get the closure that they deserve.

The parents deserve prison

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The parents deserve prison

I'm surprised that they didn't have their other two kids taken off them by Social Services for child neglect.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Beso

I doubt they will ever get closure, even if the mystery is solved. I doubt they will ever be able to forgive themselves for the errors they made that night.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm surprised that they didn't have their other two kids taken off them by Social Services for child neglect.

Every parent makes mistakes or lets their guard down
Those mistakes can have little or no effect on their child or children or can cost their child or children their lives

If you don’t have kids it easy to be very critical of those that do

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Every parent makes mistakes or lets their guard down
Those mistakes can have little or no effect on their child or children or can cost their child or children their lives

If you don’t have kids it easy to be very critical of those that do

Excellent points !


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[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Every parent makes mistakes or lets their guard down
Those mistakes can have little or no effect on their child or children or can cost their child or children their lives

If you don’t have kids it easy to be very critical of those that do

I don't think that they're evil people tbf.

I do think that they're reckless parents though, and most families would've had their other children taken away from them in the same scenario imo.

I think that they're very lucky that weren't the case.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Every parent makes mistakes or lets their guard down
Those mistakes can have little or no effect on their child or children or can cost their child or children their lives

If you don’t have kids it easy to be very critical of those that do

Do you have to be a parent to know you shouldn’t leave them alone in a foreign country because you want to go out for dinner?

Come on now, that’s ridiculous.

That child is missing (probably dead) and it was a direct consequence of her parents behaviour.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm surprised that they didn't have their other two kids taken off them by Social Services for child neglect.

They should have.

Don’t get the support they receive. They’re hideous parents.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

They should have.

Don’t get the support they receive. They’re hideous parents.

Apparently lots of parents do what they did on holiday.. they were just unfortunate to do it when there were known paedos in that area of Portugal.


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm surprised that they didn't have their other two kids taken off them by Social Services for child neglect.

This.

I'm not going to speculate on this case anymore, it regularly keeps coming up in the news.
Generally with nothing more substantiated in the end.

I recall long debates on here years back, as to what could have been what happened.
I was strongly persuaded by a very determined Chuff me dizzy on this that these parents know much more than they've said.
She didn't hold back and was convincing.
That's all I'll now say on it except for a lot of the behaviour of the parents has always been extremely odd in my view.
As I said Chuff, convinced me more about this sad, tragic and unnecessary loss of a child.
Which certainly was a result in a big part by the NEGLIGENCE of BOTH parents at the time.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This.

I'm not going to speculate on this case anymore, it regularly keeps coming up in the news.
Generally with nothing more substantiated in the end.

I recall long debates on here years back, as to what could have been what happened.
I was strongly persuaded by a very determined Chuff me dizzy on this that these parents know much more than they've said.
She didn't hold back and was convincing.
That's all I'll now say on it except for a lot of the behaviour of the parents has always been extremely odd in my view.
As I said Chuff, convinced me more about this sad, tragic and unnecessary loss of a child.
Which certainly was a result in a big part by the NEGLIGENCE of BOTH parents at the time.

Chuff was always very good at making a convincing argument.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm surprised that they didn't have their other two kids taken off them by Social Services for child neglect.

…I am very glad that the twins weren’t removed from their care…I think their world would have been scary enough and completely turned upside down enough that the best thing for them at the time was the consistency of being in the care of their parents …and with all of the scrutiny as well from authorities and agencies and the media etc…from every angle and perspective, I feel their safety was fairly assured as well as being in the best place emotionally even with all of the chaos ….anyway, apparently they’re both doing very well in their lives and one of the twins, Shaun is a potential Olympic athlete/swimmer and I just can’t help but feel that at the time after Madeleine’s disappearance…to have placed them into care would have been more detrimental and damaging to them than anything else…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I am very glad that the twins weren’t removed from their care…I think their world would have been scary enough and completely turned upside down enough that the best thing for them at the time was the consistency of being in the care of their parents …and with all of the scrutiny as well from authorities and agencies and the media etc…from every angle and perspective, I feel their safety was fairly assured as well as being in the best place emotionally even with all of the chaos ….anyway, apparently they’re both doing very well in their lives and one of the twins, Shaun is a potential Olympic athlete/swimmer and I just can’t help but feel that at the time after Madeleine’s disappearance…to have placed them into care would have been more detrimental and damaging to them than anything else…

Totally agree


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[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I am very glad that the twins weren’t removed from their care…I think their world would have been scary enough and completely turned upside down enough that the best thing for them at the time was the consistency of being in the care of their parents …and with all of the scrutiny as well from authorities and agencies and the media etc…from every angle and perspective, I feel their safety was fairly assured as well as being in the best place emotionally even with all of the chaos ….anyway, apparently they’re both doing very well in their lives and one of the twins, Shaun is a potential Olympic athlete/swimmer and I just can’t help but feel that at the time after Madeleine’s disappearance…to have placed them into care would have been more detrimental and damaging to them than anything else…

I see where you're coming from.

And I hope that Shaun has a successful Swimming career.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm surprised that they didn't have their other two kids taken off them by Social Services for child neglect.

They’re a middle class white couple, you can guarantee the kids would have been removed if they weren’t

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Liam-

They’re a middle class white couple, you can guarantee the kids would have been removed if they weren’t

Yep. If it had been a single mother from a council estate who went out drinking in Benidorm the same distance away from the apartment where her 3 under 4 year olds were in bed, I know a lot of the attitudes would be different

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

They’re a middle class white couple, you can guarantee the kids would have been removed if they weren’t

Considering how high profile this case was, you would think the head of public prosecutions at the time all the evidence was coming into the light, may have been interested in ensuring that was at least looked into....



Hmmmm, I wonder who that could have been, probably the same inept groveling coward that refused to prosecute saville cause he didnt have enough proof.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liam-

They’re a middle class white couple, you can guarantee the kids would have been removed if they weren’t

…I did read that it was also because it happened overseas and the children being left in the apartment as they were didn’t fit with what what would be illegal in Portugal in terms of any neglect charges…