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Zizu · 18-10-2024, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom and amy fan

I keep thinking about how Cheryl has to explain to a 7 year old where his dad is

Were they that close though or were they estranged ?

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Glenn. · 18-10-2024, 01:33 PM

He wasn’t a part of his life much so thankfully won’t be that much of a blow for him. Won’t be so hard on him until he’s grown up a bit.

arista · 18-10-2024, 01:33 PM

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rusticgal · 18-10-2024, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn.

From what I’ve seen and heard from him.

So you don't know him personally....you are making that judgement on what you have 'seen' and 'heard'....

I was a little confused because you don't like people making judgements on people based on what they have 'seen' and 'heard'....which makes your comments hypocritical to say the least....what makes it worse is a young life has been lost..he didn't hurt anyone other than himself and the loved ones he has left behind....to see comments slagging him and his music off at this particular time is really quite inappropriate.

Liam- · 18-10-2024, 03:35 PM

Some of the comments in here and on social media in general are actually quite shocking, I know the world likes to pick targets and go after them until they’re broke , but you’d think it would stop after they’ve died, especially in such tragic ways

user104658 · 18-10-2024, 04:02 PM

I think what bugs me slightly is the idea that empathy is reserved for the "pure of spirit". That's not really empathy at all, is it. I can appreciate that he was a troubled chap who was leaving a lot of pain and destruction in his wake; but that in itself is sad, when you consider the bleak & toxic system that forged him, even without the way it's ended.

Glenn. · 18-10-2024, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

So you don't know him personally....you are making that judgement on what you have 'seen' and 'heard'....

I was a little confused because you don't like people making judgements on people based on what they have 'seen' and 'heard'....which makes your comments hypocritical to say the least....what makes it worse is a young life has been lost..he didn't hurt anyone other than himself and the loved ones he has left behind....to see comments slagging him and his music off at this particular time is really quite inappropriate.

From what I’ve seen and heard from him. If the comparison you’re clutching at is my view on Harry and Meghans Haters then it’s weak as ****. The H&M haters literally make up weird scenarios, and conspiracy theories about them. Completely different.

ThomasC · 18-10-2024, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bots

you have just written a load of stuff not related in any way to my post. People don't seem to be very comfortable acknowledging the lives that addicts destroy, by their own choices, the families they destroy. Why not a little more about that?

I state again, he had every advantage. He could go to rehab, get the best help, much more than 99% of other addicts. He, by his own choices, took a path that led to his death, no-one else. If that evokes sympathy in some people fair enough, but don't tell me i am heartless or whatever for my stance, because it's just not true

You are heartless, absolutely true to the core.

The guy has just passed, you couldn't even wait two days.

He did go to rehab.

People are comfortable doing that, but there is a time for it. It's called respect and awareness.

Keep viewing the world through tinted glasses where everything is perfect and human behind have 100% control over their actions

ThomasC · 18-10-2024, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

BOTS I've just outlined in that post that my own mother died as a result of addiction when I was in my late 20's so with all due respect (which is zero), you can take your musings on "people not acknowledging the lives that addicts destroy", roll them up and fck yourself sideways with them. Take a break and take a look at yourself.

*Claps*

Disgusting, isn't it?

Has absolutely no self awareness whatsoever.

ThomasC · 18-10-2024, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I think what bugs me slightly is the idea that empathy is reserved for the "pure of spirit". That's not really empathy at all, is it. I can appreciate that he was a troubled chap who was leaving a lot of pain and destruction in his wake; but that in itself is sad, when you consider the bleak & toxic system that forged him, even without the way it's ended.

Spot on

Kazanne · 18-10-2024, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Is it just me or is a third floor room not that high, it seems like there could be a decent chance of surviving that depending how you fall

Exactly what I though MTVN,it does seem survivable,I guess its the way he fell.

arista · 18-10-2024, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

Some of the comments in here and on social media in general are actually quite shocking, I know the world likes to pick targets and go after them until they’re broke , but you’d think it would stop after they’ve died, especially in such tragic ways

Sure,
I think it is wrong to blame Simon Cowell
though

bots · 18-10-2024, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

BOTS I've just outlined in that post that my own mother died as a result of addiction when I was in my late 20's so with all due respect (which is zero), you can take your musings on "people not acknowledging the lives that addicts destroy", roll them up and fck yourself sideways with them. Take a break and take a look at yourself.

It's you that brought up your mum, it's you that is overly judgemental of other forum members in every thread. I am specifically talking about my thoughts on the person that is the subject of this thread, i'm not making it personal. You and several others here are. I'm entitled to my opinions on the thread subject, there are as equally valid as anyone elses.

People that manage to get through life without serious, life threatening events happening to family and friends are in the minority. Life is not a picnic. So, with all due respect, don't put your baggage on me. Like i said, you are the first to be judgemental all over the forum, so i don't need a lecture from you