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I agree she knew what the symbolism was and that it would be provocative. That doesn't mean she has a clue about what she's supporting, or why.
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I mean this discussion just shows why ITV had to edit it. A lot of people are complaining about them censoring things or being cowardly etc. but ultimately they're a major broadcaster with a reputation to protect and guidelines to follow. That has to come above all else really and regardless of your views on the conflict it's not a hill worth dying on for ITV
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I agree she knew what the symbolism was and that it would be provocative. That doesn't mean she has a clue about what she's supporting, or why.
She is just bangwaggoning

What is worrying is I get that a misguided 20 year old student would do it but a 40 year old women?

She has shown countless times she is not the full shilling
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She is just bangwaggoning

What is worrying is I get that a misguided 20 year old student would do it but a 40 year old women?

She has shown countless times she is not the full shilling

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when she took that political T-shirt in.
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I mean this discussion just shows why ITV had to edit it. A lot of people are complaining about them censoring things or being cowardly etc. but ultimately they're a major broadcaster with a reputation to protect and guidelines to follow. That has to come above all else really and regardless of your views on the conflict it's not a hill worth dying on for ITV
I've noticed ITV care more about reputation than BBC.
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Controversial t shirts -= more airtime/scandal/press
Really ironic her wearing that and the person she hasn't bothered to get to know is Palestinian.
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weelll I think if you are sporting a tshirt that promotes a whole nation being wiped out then Jews have a right to be offended dont you think? if it were the other way round and she was wearing a tshirt that promoted Palestine being wiped out dont you think they would have a case to be offended? Many Israelis do not support Netanyahu they dont deserve to be wiped out?


Thats like saying during the Iraq war which most Britons didnt agree with that the UK should have been wiped out ...no?
To me it's a T-Shirt, a horrible one that I personally don't agree with Ali on.

But I do think that she is entitled to wear it without the Jewish community (or anyone for that matter) calling for censorship or her removal from the Show.

I am a big freedom of speech advocate, it would have to take something exceptionally extreme to break my motto on this, and there are a few things out there that can break my motto.

Because to me there's a difference between being offended by something, and complaining about it to a point ITV decides to censor the segment.
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I don't know anyone who supports Palestine that wants to wipe out Israel, where are people getting that idea? We just want a ceasefire.
It's the Hamas supporters that pretend to be Palestine supporters that some people are thinking of I believe.

Because unfortunately, Hamas has hijacked this conflict unfortunately, which doesn't help matters between the two countries.
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I mean this discussion just shows why ITV had to edit it. A lot of people are complaining about them censoring things or being cowardly etc. but ultimately they're a major broadcaster with a reputation to protect and guidelines to follow. That has to come above all else really and regardless of your views on the conflict it's not a hill worth dying on for ITV
There's rare excuses for censorship, and imo this isn't one of them.
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Really ironic her wearing that and the person she hasn't bothered to get to know is Palestinian.
I've seen this said online a few times and it's a bizarre mindset. She supports Palestine which means she has to get along with any and every Palestinian person she meets, otherwise her stance is insincere? That's an absolute reach.

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I've seen this said online a few times and it's a bizarre mindset. She supports Palestine which means she has to get along with any and every Palestinian person she meets, otherwise her stance is insincere? That's an absolute reach.
Didn't you know? As someone who supports gay rights I have to like every single gay person I meet otherwise my support means nothing. That's how this works
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