[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

It may not be true

I listened to some of the audio and Lily definitely said to Nathan that she accidentally spilled wine on Hannah's bed and he told her to tell Hanah to **** off. I also heard the part where Ali called Khaled, Hanah & Segun marsupials

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I mean, pouring booze on a Muslim's bed is beyond a joke...

They were originally going to use mayo, and far as I know muslims are allowed mayonnaise so there's probably not been a huge amount of thought put into it. It's just unfortunate they used that substance for that person, likely nothing too sinister.

Originally Posted by vesavius

And then calling H/ K/ S literal animals seems, and I hate to say it... Racist?

That's harder to explain tbh. If she likened their behaviour to a specific animal, i.e. if they all ate all the food, then fair enough, call them greedy pigs. But marsupials? Wtf? Does she even know what marsupials are?

Is she saying those three carry their young in slimy pouches? Because I've seen no evidence of that.

[Niamh.]

Yes I thought calling them Marsupials was a weird one. Why? Is there something I'm missing there?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes I thought calling them Marsupials was a weird one. Why? Is there something I'm missing there?

If there was some racism there, maybe she used the wrong Australian word and wanted to call them Aboriginals?

God knows?

[Ray.]

Regardless of her exact reasoning behind using that word, it's still such a bizarre choice on the part of someone who has postured themselves as being so keyed into the SJW movement and hyper aware of race relations. But tbh, covert racism has always been a big part of that movement anyway, what with calling minorities who lean right 'race traitors' and whatnot, so... It wouldn't surprise me if it were genuine racism that slipped out in a moment of sloppy, haphazardly emotional thinking.

[GoldHeart]

Why wasn't this shown in the HL show, there isn't even a clip is there ?. More protection of the gremlin.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why wasn't this shown in the HL show, there isn't even a clip is there ?. More protection of the gremlin.

Wasn't it on live last night? So it hadn't happened yet when the HL aired.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Wasn't it on live last night? So it hadn't happened yet when the HL aired.

Sounds like it happened before then .

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why wasn't this shown in the HL show, there isn't even a clip is there ?. More protection of the gremlin.

I wondered the same... In a HL show that had to rely on a secret task to pump some content into it why did they ignore this as a thing.

They jump stuff like this and then wonder why we find it so hard sometimes to follow coherent dynamics in the house.

It could have been really harmful to Nathan, especially given the timing.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Wasn't it on live last night? So it hadn't happened yet when the HL aired.

Night before.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I wondered the same... In a HL show that had to rely on a secret task to pump some content into it why did they ignore this as a thing.

They jump stuff like this and then wonder why we find it so hard sometimes to follow coherent dynamics in the house.

It could have been really harmful to Nathan, especially given the timing.

Producers want Nathan & Lily in the final , I would say wine gate would be a major thing to show us for content. So yeah...very weird .

[Lostie!]

I was reading a transcript on Reddit that suggests Lily spilt something onto Martha's bed and it splashed onto Hanah's

It's frustrating not getting this properly featured so we actually know what happened though

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I was reading a transcript on Reddit that suggests Lily spilt something onto Martha's bed and it splashed onto Hanah's

It's frustrating not getting this properly featured so we actually know what happened though

It's a bit Sus that they won't even show us , it's stuff like this which makes BB lose viewers imo ...if we're not going to be kept in the loop properly,then what is the point.

[GoldGlitter]

A Reddit post Where is your evidence.

[Billy]

If this happened then Lily should be reprimanded for sure

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I listened to some of the audio and Lily definitely said to Nathan that she accidentally spilled wine on Hannah's bed and he told her to tell Hanah to **** off. I also heard the part where Ali called Khaled, Hanah & Segun marsupials

Originally Posted by GoldGlitter

A Reddit post Where is your evidence.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

I cant tell you how much this has upset me

Im so angry about it

raging in fact

Such a waste of good alcohol

[GoldGlitter]

Smearing housemates with accusations of racism based on nothing.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldGlitter

Smearing housemates with accusations of racism based on nothing.

I never said it was racist, its a bit of a strange comparison though, no idea what she meant by it

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldGlitter

Smearing housemates with accusations of racism based on nothing.

Originally Posted by GoldGlitter

A Reddit post Where is your evidence.

Why are you facepalming when you clearly haven't understood that the reddit post was not presented as evidence or a reliable source... It was presented as the basis of a question and confirmation/ further information was requested on it.

Look, calm down, no one has declared it racist. The possibility is a valid question to ask and discuss though.

What do you think was meant by calling 3 PoC housemates 'marsupials'?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Calm down, no one has done that. It's a valid question to ask and discuss though.

What do you think was meant by calling 3 PoC housemates 'marsupials'?

Was this in the live feed ? . I don't watch live feed , sounds like I'm missing a chunk of what's happening.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Was this in the live feed ? . I don't watch live feed , sounds like I'm missing a chunk of what's happening.

Apparently.

The reason I made the thread was so that people could tell me more on it really so I don't have details past whats here.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Regardless of her exact reasoning behind using that word, it's still such a bizarre choice on the part of someone who has postured themselves as being so keyed into the SJW movement and hyper aware of race relations. But tbh, covert racism has always been a big part of that movement anyway, what with calling minorities who lean right 'race traitors' and whatnot, so... It wouldn't surprise me if it were genuine racism that slipped out in a moment of sloppy, haphazardly emotional thinking.

The older I get, I suppose the wiser I get, that a lot of it just seems like total projection. No surprise that Ali is riding the front of the bandwagon as Queen of the Holograms.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Maru

No surprise that Ali is riding the front of the bandwagon as Queen of the Holograms.

wonderful

[Ammi]

…I don’t know if this adds anymore context to know whether this was an incident or any accuracy to it because it is just an account of someone who watched live feed that evening…

Spoiler:

What happened on the livestream:

- Nathan and Lily were plotting a prank against someone and they eventually chose Hanah - the original prank was to squirt mayonnaise on her

- Lily tells Nathan she ‘accidentally’ (not sure if it was accidental or not) poured wine on Hanah’s bed.

- Hanah got upset and confronted Lily, who told Nathan and Nathan told Lily to tell Hanah to **** off.

- Dean and Ali were still talking about the red witch comment: she called Hanah, Khaled and Segun ‘marsupials’

- Prior to Nathan telling Lily to tell Hanah to **** off, Nathan and Lily called her fake and aggressive.

- Dean and Ali objected to pranking anybody but Nathan encouraged Lily. BP was present in the room but didn't encourage or discourage anyone.

- Lily wanted to prank Thomas at first but Nathan chose Hanah because she would be more likely to kick off, and he called Thomas boring.

- Some of the wine went on Martha/her bed.

I hate how there was little coverage of this. There were two episodes dedicated to the 'red witch is coming' and now multiple episodes on Ali/Khaled arguing then rekindling then arguing.

They love showing Lily being a slob but protect her when it comes to her borderline bullying another housemate, smh