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Jessica. · 26-10-2024, 07:23 AM

When he said Rosie/Baked Tatty wasn't his type?

Ammi · 26-10-2024, 07:36 AM

…I did think that maybe that’s what he inferred but I’m not completely sure, obviously…if that was what was meant…?…then that would just be his own interpretation of something because Nathan himself has said that he doesn’t put a label on his sexuality/…his attractions…

Merry Mockmas · 26-10-2024, 07:45 AM

Tbf Ali and Dean have basically called Nathan gay in Ali's Patriarchy Pyramid thing.

And let's face it, it's the main reason why I believe the Showmance to be fake, so the three of them wouldn't be wrong imo.

ChristmasNeeve · 26-10-2024, 07:47 AM

Definitely what I picked up from that

ChristmasNeeve · 26-10-2024, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf Ali and Dean have basically called Nathan gay in Ali's Patriarchy Pyramid thing.

And let's face it, it's the main reason why I believe the Showmance to be fake, so the three of them wouldn't be wrong imo.

Well they didn't really, they called him Queer which he is as he's already said he came as gay at one point

Ammi · 26-10-2024, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf Ali and Dean have basically called Nathan gay in Ali's Patriarchy Pyramid thing.

And let's face it, it's the main reason why I believe the Showmance to be fake, so the three of them wouldn't be wrong imo.

…he was referred to as queer/the ‘q’ in LGBTQ…which referred correctly, really…Nathan hasn’t stated that ‘men would be his type’ so if that’s what Izaaz meant then that was only his own labelling…

Merry Mockmas · 26-10-2024, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well they didn't really, they called him Queer which he is as he's already said he came as gay at one point

I think that they meant it in the traditional sense.

Tbh, it's possibly the worst kept secret on this series of BB imo, because it's clear that Nathan isn't into women.

It's why his Showmance with Rosie is so awkward.

Ammi · 26-10-2024, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think that they meant it in the traditional sense.

Tbh, it's possibly the worst kept secret on this series of BB imo, because it's clear that Nathan isn't into women.

It's why his Showmance with Rosie is so awkward.

…well no, it’s not clear…

…his fakemance with BP feels awkward because it feels very forced in terms of having evolved…a game play type romance…

Jessica. · 26-10-2024, 07:55 AM

It sounded like he was implying Nathan had no interest in women which I found odd but it might be something housemates could pick up on that we wouldn't, though I do see no chemistry between the two.

Merry Mockmas · 26-10-2024, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

…he was referred to as queer/the ‘q’ in LGBTQ…which referred correctly, really…Nathan hasn’t stated that ‘men would be his type’ so if that’s what Izaaz meant then that was only his own labelling…

I get that.

But I don't believe Izaaz to be wrong personally.

And tbh if it weren't for the Showmance that he is currently having with Rosie, I wouldn't have even mentioned anything about his sexuality (as it's none of my business) but trying to trick the public into believing a Showmance with Rosie is wrong imo, but that's just my view on it.

ChristmasNeeve · 26-10-2024, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think that they meant it in the traditional sense.

Tbh, it's possibly the worst kept secret on this series of BB imo, because it's clear that Nathan isn't into women.

It's why his Showmance with Rosie is so awkward.

No I don't think they did, I think they meant he was queer

Merry Mockmas · 26-10-2024, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

…well no, it’s not clear…

…his fakemance with BP feels awkward because it feels very forced in terms of having evolved…a game play type romance…

I agree to some extent.

For me I feel like when watching the two of them, I feel like Rosie/BP does like men, that's why I feel like she's able to play this Showmance off better than Nathan, who I think just can't fake liking women in that way.

If I'm way off base then I do apologize, but I honestly don't believe that I am.

Merry Mockmas · 26-10-2024, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

No I don't think they did, I think they meant he was queer

Wasn't queer normally aimed towards gay people/fashion though?

Like Queer Eye For The Straight Guy for example?

Jessica. · 26-10-2024, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Wasn't queer normally aimed towards gay people/fashion though?

Like Queer Eye For The Straight Guy for example?

Twenty years ago, yes, now it is more of an umbrella term.

Ammi · 26-10-2024, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get that.

But I don't believe Izaaz to be wrong personally.

And tbh if it weren't for the Showmance that he is currently having with Rosie, I wouldn't have even mentioned anything about his sexuality (as it's none of my business) but trying to trick the public into believing a Showmance with Rosie is wrong imo, but that's just my view on it.

…and it’s totally your prerogative to believe wherever your thoughts guide you, Mock…but for me I don’t see any substance in what Izaaz inferred…(…if that’s what he was inferring…)…Nathan wouldn’t be the first housemate to go for a ‘tricking the public gameplay of showmance’ is one thing but sexuality isn’t something that’s necessarily questioned in that ‘fake’….he also hasn’t showed/displayed any flirting or any type of attraction or particular admiration etc to any of the males in the house so far as I can see…so there is no substance or reasoning for Izaaz to contra that BP wouldn’t be his ‘type’….

Merry Mockmas · 26-10-2024, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessica.

Twenty years ago, yes, now it is more of an umbrella term.

I'm becoming a Boomer before my time.

ChristmasNeeve · 26-10-2024, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Wasn't queer normally aimed towards gay people/fashion though?

Like Queer Eye For The Straight Guy for example?

Not anymore, queer used to be a slur for being gay but nowadays it basically means anyone who isn't 100% straight is transgender. That's definitely what they meant when using the word.

Merry Mockmas · 26-10-2024, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

…and it’s totally your prerogative to believe wherever your thoughts guide you, Mock…but for me I don’t see any substance in what Izaaz inferred…(…if that’s what he was inferring…)…Nathan wouldn’t be the first housemate to go for a ‘tricking the public gameplay of showmance’ is one thing but sexuality isn’t something that’s necessarily questioned in that ‘fake’….he also hasn’t showed/displayed any flirting or any type of attraction or particular admiration etc to any of the males in the house so far as I can see…so there is no substance or reasoning for Izaaz to contra that BP wouldn’t be his ‘type’….

I think it's just the vibe that Nathan is giving off if that makes sense?

I'm assuming that Izaaz probably picked up on it more living with him, like you said if he was even inferring that in the first place.

Merry Mockmas · 26-10-2024, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Not anymore, queer used to be a slur for being gay but nowadays it basically means anyone who isn't 100% straight is transgender. That's definitely what they meant when using the word.

Isn't Bisexual and Pansexual meant to be the terms for people that aren't 100% straight or gay though?

I feel like I'm becoming LT.

ChristmasNeeve · 26-10-2024, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Isn't Bisexual and Pansexual meant to be the terms for people that aren't 100% straight or gay though?

I feel like I'm becoming LT.

Yes but queer, like Jess said is more of an Umbrella term for anyone who is gay, bi, trans or whatever others that aren't 100% straight

Ammi · 26-10-2024, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think it's just the vibe that Nathan is giving off if that makes sense?

I'm assuming that Izaaz probably picked up on it more living with him, like you said if he was even inferring that in the first place.

…I think for me, the ‘vibe’ that Nathan is giving off is more that he’s creating a storyline of house romance as a way to maybe get through to the final…?…and because of their friendship, BP was the ‘partner’ he chose but there for me is no ‘chemistry’ because it feels forced into being something romantic, which it isn’t…if Nathan had never been revealed as not labelling his sexuality etc but actually had said that he was heterosexual…?…the fakemance soul surely not even be questioned or inferred to as ‘not his type’…it is for me showing a lack of understanding from Izaaz and himself having to try to put a label onto something…

thesheriff443 · 26-10-2024, 08:16 AM

If it looks like sh1t it smells like sh1t you don’t have to taste it to know it’s sh1t

He is the one that referred to the housemates on the screen as seven being fake when he is faking any interest in bp