[bots]

Nathan can do what he likes of course but the pair of them look like complete tits when you see them on TV

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf Ali and Dean have basically called Nathan gay in Ali's Patriarchy Pyramid thing.

And let's face it, it's the main reason why I believe the Showmance to be fake, so the three of them wouldn't be wrong imo.

Everything contradicts itself , it is possible Nathan likes both Men & women of course. But the way Ali is putting him firmly in her ' team' ..is pretty rich when he slags Martha off , and she's witnessed him bitching.

BP & Nathan will not last outside the house, Santa clause jumping down all our chimney's this Christmas with a sack of money is more likely to happen.

And I think neither is invested in eachother romantically.

[GoldGlitter]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Not anymore, queer used to be a slur for being gay but nowadays it basically means anyone who isn't 100% straight is transgender. That's definitely what they meant when using the word.

It's still a slur for many gay men. Don't automatically think it's ok to use it.

[UserSince2005]

Once youve tasted cock, pussy just aint going to satisfy you.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Me and my daughter are on the back end of COVID
This strain has been nasty,

I'm sorry to hear about you both having Covid.

Hopefully you both fully recover soon.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Nah they didn't, queer is a word used to describe people across the entire LGBT+ spectrum. I get the feeling he's bi or pansexual (but him being more on the flamboyant side will always have people presuming he's just gay, just as Ali has had people questioning her lesbianism all series because she's not butch)

People doing that with Ali always makes me laugh though, as she's never even hinted at being attracted to a guy in the house.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

God forbid. Nowhere near.

Thanks Redway.

No offense to LT.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldGlitter

It's still a slur for many gay men. Don't automatically think it's ok to use it.

I don't use it but that's what it means nowadays

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't use it but that's what it means nowadays

Haven't heard it used as a slur in a really long time.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by GoldGlitter

It's still a slur for many gay men. Don't automatically think it's ok to use it.

But Ali was the one who said it .

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

But Ali was the one who said it .

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

But Ali was the one who said it .

What point are you trying to make?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by BBXX

What point are you trying to make?

I assume she meant that Ali was the one who said it and she is gay?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I assume she meant that Ali was the one who said it and she is gay?

This

[BBXX]

It is OK to use in the context Ali used it in, to refer to someone who she knows is on the sexuality spectrum but doesn't adhere to a gay/bi label.

I think GoldGlitters point is that if you don't know someone, it's not safe to use the word because for some the only time they hear that said to them is during an insult. I wouldn't care even though I would never call myself Queer but I would find it an odd choice of word for someone to use to describe me without knowing if I referred to myself as that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by BBXX

It is OK to use in the context Ali used it in, to refer to someone who she knows is on the sexuality spectrum but doesn't adhere to a gay/bi label.

I think GoldGlitters point is that if you don't know someone, it's not safe to use the word because for some the only time they hear that said to them is during an insult. I wouldn't care even though I would never call myself Queer but I would find it an odd choice of word for someone to use to describe me without knowing if I referred to myself as that.

I'm old enough to remember when it was only used as a slur so it's something that I wouldn't say now anyway regardless of the change of meaning.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by BBXX

It is OK to use in the context Ali used it in, to refer to someone who she knows is on the sexuality spectrum but doesn't adhere to a gay/bi label.

I think GoldGlitters point is that if you don't know someone, it's not safe to use the word because for some the only time they hear that said to them is during an insult. I wouldn't care even though I would never call myself Queer but I would find it an odd choice of word for someone to use to describe me without knowing if I referred to myself as that.

…yeah, I agree that the context that Ali used was fine …I think it’s a bit more tricky with ‘reclaimed’ words, isn’t it….which is basically what it has been …but outside of the LGBQT community…?…it’s not really a word I would use either, as Niamh said…

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah, I agree that the context that Ali used was fine …I think it’s a bit more tricky with ‘reclaimed’ words, isn’t it….which is basically what it has been …but outside of the LGBQT community…?…it’s not really a word I would use either, as Niamh said…

I think that's completely fair. I do think it's a reclaimed word and so it's 'safer' to use if you're part of the community is sits within.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I think that's completely fair. I do think it's a reclaimed word and so it's 'safer' to use if you're part of the community is sits within.

…..

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I think that's completely fair. I do think it's a reclaimed word and so it's 'safer' to use if you're part of the community is sits within.

From what I've seen online too there are a lot of older gay people who don't like the fact it's been used the way it is now either.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

From what I've seen online too there are a lot of older gay people who don't like the fact it's been used the way it is now either.

That is also true, and I completely understand why. As a gay guy, I never refer to anyone's sexuality as Queer unless they specifically tell me to.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by BBXX

That is also true, and I completely understand why. As a gay guy, I never refer to anyone's sexuality as Queer unless they specifically tell me to.

Then you could argue Ali made an assumption by referring to Nathan as that . Didn't he himself say ....he doesn't like labels .

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Then you could argue Ali made an assumption by referring to Nathan as that . Didn't he himself say ....he doesn't like labels .

You could, but you would be ignoring the fact that Ali has lived with Nathan for 3 weeks and knows him better than we do. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that they've had a conversation along with topic and Ali feels like Nathan would be okay with that.

Some people find literally anything to criticise Ali over. It's giving... obsessed

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Some people find literally anything to criticise Ali over. It's giving... obsessed

It’s exactly that point that pressurised me out of the BB threads and ultimately into stopping watching the series..


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[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by BBXX

You could, but you would be ignoring the fact that Ali has lived with Nathan for 3 weeks and knows him better than we do. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that they've had a conversation along with topic and Ali feels like Nathan would be okay with that.

Some people find literally anything to criticise Ali over. It's giving... obsessed

I disagree, it's hardly obsession when people are saying certain words are offensive to members of a community. I was simply pointing out ... Ali openly used the term .