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in Deans chat in the diary room, he knew he had messed up big time, he then went out of there and doubled down on it all
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Dean is just full of sh1t and is bitter he's been evicted. I can't wait to watch it back .

If Marcello said anything ,then BB would have pulled him up for it. Making false accusations like that is serious.. just shows yet again,what a vile twat Dean is . Notice it's fine for him to insult others though?, he needs to have accountability. What a horrible little man.
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Dean is just full of sh1t and is bitter he's been evicted. I can't wait to watch it back .

If Marcello said anything ,then BB would have pulled him up for it. Making false accusations like that is serious.. just shows yet again,what a vile twat Dean is . Notice it's fine for him to insult others though?, he needs to have accountability. What a horrible little man.
We don't know they didn't though.
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We don't know they didn't though.
All this has done unfortunately ,is cause a whole " no smoke without fire " nonsense . when Dean is about as reliable as a paper roof in a monsoon. I take everything he says with a pinch of salt, especially when he's had it in for both Sarah & Marcello. This is the same nutter that mocked Sarah rolled his eyes ,and got personal about her voice & shoes ... like seriously!? . The guy is unhinged.
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Dean is just full of sh1t and is bitter he's been evicted. I can't wait to watch it back .

If Marcello said anything ,then BB would have pulled him up for it. Making false accusations like that is serious.. just shows yet again,what a vile twat Dean is . Notice it's fine for him to insult others though?, he needs to have accountability. What a horrible little man.
I don’t see why BB would call him out on it? They don’t seem to have called him for his misogynistic comments
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Twitter is going to war based on this

But, yeah... Dean sees everyone who isn't a screaming queen to be 'toxic' and 'homophobic'.

There is no way the left leaning ultra progressive BB production team allowed homophobia to fly in there. Marcello would have been ejected just like Emma was once for saying the N word that time.

It's just Dean lashing out.
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Twitter is going to war based on this

But, yeah... Dean sees everyone who isn't a screaming queen to be 'toxic' and 'homophobic'.

There is no way the left leaning ultra progressive BB production team allowed homophobia to fly in there. Marcello would have been ejected just like Emma was once for saying the N word that time.

It's just Dean lashing out.
He probably said something surface level that Dean took offense over, but still not enough to nominate him over Nathan who hasn't looked him in the eye for a couple of days.
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He probably said something surface level that Dean took offense over, but still not enough to nominate him over Nathan who hasn't looked him in the eye for a couple of days.
Basically, if you arent Quentin Crisp Dean thinks you are a toxic straight hyper-masculine male.
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Twitter is going to war based on this

But, yeah... Dean sees everyone who isn't a screaming queen to be 'toxic' and 'homophobic'.

There is no way the left leaning ultra progressive BB production team allowed homophobia to fly in there. Marcello would have been ejected just like Emma was once for saying the N word that time.

It's just Dean lashing out.


They showed the whole " teabags & period " comment,I doubt they'd hide anything else ,and if it's more than 1 comment....as Dean is alleging with plural " comments",it's definitely going to get flagged up . It's interesting...Sarah is fine with Marcello,this 'terrible
monster' .
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Dean is a liar…even in his interview one minute he said he exaggerated his comments about Sarah to get more blood and when AJ pulled him up on the fact he repeated it to her in the living room he said “cos I speak the truth…”

AJ and Will were speechless…
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Dean is a liar…even in his interview one minute he said he exaggerated his comments about Sarah to get more blood and when AJ pulled him up on the fact he repeated it to her in the living room he said “cos I speak the truth…”

AJ and Will were speechless…
This actually does sound like a L&L I need to watch
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Twitter is going to war based on this

But, yeah... Dean sees everyone who isn't a screaming queen to be 'toxic' and 'homophobic'.

There is no way the left leaning ultra progressive BB production team allowed homophobia to fly in there. Marcello would have been ejected just like Emma was once for saying the N word that time.

It's just Dean lashing out.
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I don’t see why BB would call him out on it? They don’t seem to have called him for his misogynistic comments
It depends on if you think Marcello is actually making Misogynistic comments.

I would personally argue that his humour is not very politically correct, but I wouldn't necessarily say that he is Misogynistic.

Unless most of the female Housemates liking him are wrong, and Ali is correct?
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It depends on if you think Marcello is actually making Misogynistic comments.

I would personally argue that his humour is not very politically correct, but I wouldn't necessarily say that he is Misogynistic.

Unless most of the female Housemates liking him are wrong, and Ali is correct?
I would say they are misogynistic comments and I don’t think that’s really up for debate. (The most egregious example imo is the way he treated Sarah during the roast chicken debacle - both the ‘you’re a vegan and your PH levels are probably off’ comment and the way he shooed her away to dismiss her. Oh and ‘you smell like period and tea bags.’ Often when he’s irritated by a female housemate he resorts to sexist comments.)

These things are complex. I think often people think that prejudice isn’t there unless someone’s actively saying **** like ‘men are superior to women’ or ‘homosexuality is wrong’, but it can be - and usually is - more subtle than that. We all grow up internalising prejudice and have internal biases (unless we unlearn them either purposefully or by being exposed to different ideas). That doesn’t mean female housemates can’t like him. I often like him and find him entertaining. I can still acknowledge that he makes misogynistic comments sometimes. I imagine if he is making homophobic comments it’s probably in like with his sexist comments - nothing absolutely god awful, but still coming from a homophobic place. He strikes me as someone who means well but has a lot of sexism he needs to unlearn.
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I would say they are misogynistic comments and I don’t think that’s really up for debate. (The most egregious example imo is the way he treated Sarah during the roast chicken debacle - both the ‘you’re a vegan and your PH levels are probably off’ comment and the way he shooed her away to dismiss her. Oh and ‘you smell like period and tea bags.’ Often when he’s irritated by a female housemate he resorts to sexist comments.)

These things are complex. I think often people think that prejudice isn’t there unless someone’s actively saying **** like ‘men are superior to women’ or ‘homosexuality is wrong’, but it can be - and usually is - more subtle than that. We all grow up internalising prejudice and have internal biases (unless we unlearn them either purposefully or by being exposed to different ideas). That doesn’t mean female housemates can’t like him. I often like him and find him entertaining. I can still acknowledge that he makes misogynistic comments sometimes. I imagine if he is making homophobic comments it’s probably in like with his sexist comments - nothing absolutely god awful, but still coming from a homophobic place. He strikes me as someone who means well but has a lot of sexism he needs to unlearn.
I can see what you're saying, and I agree with you on some of your points tbf.

Especially the Chicken thing with Sarah, I know that I keep batting for Sarah, but Marcello did annoy me with his "it's just banter" line as it screamed douchebag to me in that moment.
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I would say they are misogynistic comments and I don’t think that’s really up for debate. (The most egregious example imo is the way he treated Sarah during the roast chicken debacle - both the ‘you’re a vegan and your PH levels are probably off’ comment and the way he shooed her away to dismiss her. Oh and ‘you smell like period and tea bags.’ Often when he’s irritated by a female housemate he resorts to sexist comments.)

These things are complex. I think often people think that prejudice isn’t there unless someone’s actively saying **** like ‘men are superior to women’ or ‘homosexuality is wrong’, but it can be - and usually is - more subtle than that. We all grow up internalising prejudice and have internal biases (unless we unlearn them either purposefully or by being exposed to different ideas). That doesn’t mean female housemates can’t like him. I often like him and find him entertaining. I can still acknowledge that he makes misogynistic comments sometimes. I imagine if he is making homophobic comments it’s probably in like with his sexist comments - nothing absolutely god awful, but still coming from a homophobic place. He strikes me as someone who means well but has a lot of sexism he needs to unlearn.
Good post. We do know Marcello has made some offensive comments but we also know that Dean is wildly judgemental, sees the worst in people and infers major negative things from mild actions.

If Marcello had said anything seriously homophobic it would be very difficult to cover it up and other housemates will mention it. It will all come out in the wash either way.
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I would say they are misogynistic comments and I don’t think that’s really up for debate. (The most egregious example imo is the way he treated Sarah during the roast chicken debacle - both the ‘you’re a vegan and your PH levels are probably off’ comment and the way he shooed her away to dismiss her. Oh and ‘you smell like period and tea bags.’ Often when he’s irritated by a female housemate he resorts to sexist comments.)

These things are complex. I think often people think that prejudice isn’t there unless someone’s actively saying **** like ‘men are superior to women’ or ‘homosexuality is wrong’, but it can be - and usually is - more subtle than that. We all grow up internalising prejudice and have internal biases (unless we unlearn them either purposefully or by being exposed to different ideas). That doesn’t mean female housemates can’t like him. I often like him and find him entertaining. I can still acknowledge that he makes misogynistic comments sometimes. I imagine if he is making homophobic comments it’s probably in like with his sexist comments - nothing absolutely god awful, but still coming from a homophobic place. He strikes me as someone who means well but has a lot of sexism he needs to unlearn.
This is an excellent well balanced post. Bravo.
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