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Old 02-12-2024, 06:19 PM #1
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Rupert Lowe MP @rupertLowe10

It's NOT normal to see armed police at Christmas markets/events, it's NOT
normal to have security guards at dance classes, it's NOT normal for pockets of
unknown foreign young males to appear all over the country.


NONE of this is normal.


We must NOT get used to it.



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Rupert also tweets:

This is astonishing. I questioned the Home Office about their official procedure
to inform local residents of illegal migrants being housed in hotels near them.


It is official Home Office policy NOT to tell residents.

"we do not disclose information about specific hotels which may or may not be
utilised by the Home Office to the general public."

It's simply outrageous. British taxpayers being kept in the dark about hundreds
of unchecked foreign young males being housed near their homes.

I am disgusted, genuinely disgusted.

https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1863621074174296496
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8 million a day in tax payer funds for hotels let that sink in, MPs able to claim payment for their winter fuel...but everyone else has to put up ...shut up...and do it for the greater good ....die already pensioners to save the exchequer?
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It feels like only the safety of illegal foreigners is important.
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COUNTER TERRORISM POLICING
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If you’re heading out this weekend, keep an eye on your surroundings.

Let an officer know if you see anything that doesn’t feel right, or report it online 🔗

Call 999 in an emergency 📲

https://x.com/TerrorismPolice/status...sQ0ixomJA&s=19

Unfortunately they left the comments on.......
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COUNTER TERRORISM POLICING
@terrorismPolice

If you’re heading out this weekend, keep an eye on your surroundings.

Let an officer know if you see anything that doesn’t feel right, or report it online 🔗

Call 999 in an emergency 📲

https://x.com/TerrorismPolice/status...sQ0ixomJA&s=19

Unfortunately they left the comments on.......

Nope this is not normal, unfortunately for kids today it is though ...shame
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Tbf Christmas markets have been a big terrorist target in recent years, would rather we were vigilant about this
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Apart from a deterrent armed police in somewhere like a Christmas Market are as useful as a chocolate tea pot. They would never be able to discharge weapons with that many people around....it would always result in civilian casualties.
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Tbf Christmas markets have been a big terrorist target in recent years, would rather we were vigilant about this
German Police foiled an Islamic attack just yesterday

But, no point our police saying be vigilant without saying who it is we are to look out for and why

they would rather protect the suspects rather than warn the victims properly

why is that?

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Be vigilant means if someone is driving a speeding vehicle at a crowd get out of the way. If someone is wielding a knife, run away. If you are not aware of your surroundings it's more difficult to avoid.

The message of being vigilant has been around for at least 30 years, so contrary to the thread title, it is normal, to suggest otherwise is plain wrong. Also, police were on patrol when the IRA were at their height, they were preaching vigilance then and that was 60 years ago
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Be vigilant means if someone is driving a speeding vehicle at a crowd get out of the way. If someone is wielding a knife, run away. If you are not aware of your surroundings it's more difficult to avoid.

The message of being vigilant has been around for at least 30 years, so contrary to the thread title, it is normal, to suggest otherwise is plain wrong. Also, police were on patrol when the IRA were at their height, they were preaching vigilance then and that was 60 years ago
It isn't normal, normal is going to a Christmas market and feeling safe

I presume you will invoke the fear we had of German bombers and the Viking invasions next to excuse it?
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It isn't normal, normal is going to a Christmas market and feeling safe

I presume you will invoke the fear we had of German bombers and the Viking invasions next to excuse it?
you are stating it's not normal, i have just quoted examples going back 60 years, so it obviously is normal
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If indeed the "far-right" are the problem, why do Christmas markets need diversity barriers but say mosques don't?

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A 37-year-old Iraqi asylum seeker has been arrested in Augsburg, Germany,
for allegedly planning a terrorist attack on the city’s popular Christmas
market, local police confirmed.

Authorities acted after discovering evidence that the suspect, named as Ali
Al-G, had scouted the market and engaged with Islamic State (IS) operatives
online. The arrest has highlighted ongoing security concerns surrounding
Christmas markets across Germany, which have been targets for Islamist
terrorism in recent years.

Die Welt reports that Ali Al-G was detained on Wednesday evening at an
asylum seekers’ residence in Augsburg. Police cited a warrant issued by the
Augsburg District Court to secure his deportation under Section 58a of
Germany’s Residence Act, a rarely invoked measure for individuals deemed
an imminent security threat. According to law enforcement, Al-G had taken
photographs of Augsburg’s Christkindlesmarkt and discussed using a vehicle
to ram into the crowd, a method reminiscent of previous IS-inspired attacks
in Europe.


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If indeed the "far-right" are the problem, why do Christmas markets need diversity barriers but say mosques don't?

There can be issues on both sides.
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Be vigilant means if someone is driving a speeding vehicle at a crowd get out of the way. If someone is wielding a knife, run away. If you are not aware of your surroundings it's more difficult to avoid.

The message of being vigilant has been around for at least 30 years, so contrary to the thread title, it is normal, to suggest otherwise is plain wrong. Also, police were on patrol when the IRA were at their height, they were preaching vigilance then and that was 60 years ago
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"Tis the season" to be... Vigilant? Paranoid? Terrified, constantly on guard for fear of a truck ramming you and your family?

Is this the new normal now?

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"Tis the season" to be... Vigilant? Paranoid? Terrified, constantly on guard for fear of a truck ramming you and your family?

Is this the new normal now?

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We live in an unsafe world, it's not just the UK, would it be better for everyone to bury their heads in the sand?
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we live in an unsafe world, it's not just the uk, would it be better for everyone to bury their heads in the sand?
would it not be better to specify what the threat is exactly and what we are looking out for

is it a man

what colour man

does he have a rucksack

is it a white van

is it a lorry

is it a bomb

is it a man with a machine gun

is it a man with a knife

is it an old white Granny

is it lazer beams from above

is it wild animals

is it boys from Cardiff

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its like the Met office giving out a warning that said

"Bad weather is to be expected soon, please be vigilant"
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would it not be better to specify what the threat is exactly and what we are looking out for

is it a man

what colour man

does he have a rucksack

is it a white van

is it a lorry

is it a bomb

is it a man with a machine gun

is it a man with a knife

is it an old white Granny

is it lazer beams from above

is it wild animals

is it boys from Cardiff

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its like the Met office giving out a warning that said

"Bad weather is to be expected soon, please be vigilant"
Given the hysteria in the summer with all the riots over misinformation I think it’s wise that the ignorant masses are left in the dark a little bit.

Like bots said. It’s not new to be vigilant on the streets. Stop believing propaganda.
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Given the hysteria in the summer with all the riots over misinformation I think it’s wise that the ignorant masses are left in the dark a little bit.

Like bots said. It’s not new to be vigilant on the streets. Stop believing propaganda.
I take no advice from someone who calls the public ignorant masses

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