[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

That's the thing - it is ridiculous if people would condemn the incitement on SoMed but then ignore this blatant threat from the labour chap but it's constantly used to deflect... I don't think there are all that many people who actually think that's fine. Yes, the guy who said "slit their throats" should be arrested and charged. And so should the SoMed riot encourages.

I think it's used the other way round as an argument that the racist Social media grannies should be left in peace. Nah. Charge 'em all, on all "sides".

I have no problem with her being charged....where did I say I had....I do have an issue with the length of time 31 months when that chap who kicked and assaulted someone on the ground was given 22 months and then let out and went on to help murder someone.....is she a danger to society I dont think so, what I also have an issue with is why the courts had to time to look at her case and many others...(quite rightly) but they dont have time to hear Rickys case.... smacks of its who you know, not what you know, even if he does do time now which I seriously doubt its not good enough.... a year later when everyone else was fast tracked ...it looks like and you know this QB no matter how YOU try to deflect strings were pulled

Also I dont know why you are being so ageist this woman is 41....nowhere near a granny, in fact she is probably closer to your age

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I have no problem with her being charged....where did I say I had....I do have an issue with the length of time 31 months when that chap who kicked and assaulted someone on the ground was given 22 months and then let out and went on to help murder someone.....is she a danger to society I dont think so, what I also have an issue with is why the courts had to time to look at her case and many others...(quite rightly) but they dont have time to hear Rickys case.... smacks of its who you know, not what you know, even if he does do time now which I seriously doubt its not good enough.... a year later when everyone else was fast tracked ...it looks like and you know this QB no matter how YOU try to deflect strings were pulled

Also I dont know why you are being so ageist this woman is 41....nowhere near a granny, in fact she is probably closer to your age

Age is a mindset not a number Cherie - anyone who is mouthing off on Facebook or X is a boomer/oldie, let's face it, be they 70 or 17.

Anyway -- I wasn't saying that you have an issue with people being charged for this sort of thing, but a LOT of people do, and it's incredibly common to see people say "oh year but what aboutttt ____ who did _____?!?" in response to any mention of people being charged for insighting riots - with the implication being that these are the "real" crimes that should be tackled while X incitement to violence is "just freedom of speech".

The Americanised media is partially to blame because people (entirely incorrectly) believe that UK freedom of speech laws and US freedom of speech laws are or should be the same, or that any variation of freedom of expression law that deviates from the US "more or less anything goes" stance is "not freedom/not free speech". Just US-centric nonsense like almost everything else these days. We have undeniably better freedom of speech laws than they do stateside. I can agree that they're lenient on some people with them for clearly political reasons - but that really is a separate issue... it's not an argument that aggressive social media chatter should be seen as acceptable.

TiBB has suffered similarly in recent years. Things people were banned for a few years ago fly quite freely (rampant racism, homophobia, misogyny) while the "don't talk about other members" is treated like dogma. IMO it's partly because of that "people can say whatever they want and it's actually wrong to tell them that it's wrong" mindset that's rooted in American freedom-ideals (bad ones) and has spread outwards from there.

Off on a tangent a bit but yeah. That's why people in the UK are "confused" that they can't say whatever they want on Social Media and not be arrested for it. And why so many think Trump is their president I guess .