[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by vesavius

'She' when he is drag, 'he' when he isn't...

We are supposed to treat his drag persona as a person with a separate gender? What type of insanity even is that?

Yeah... BB didn't think that one through very well.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It’s common sense that this is what was meant.

People are just very very quick to be outraged and triggered.

Fair point.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Regardless, I don't think it was an order or a rule as such, I think that BB was just giving Mickey an answer as he asked and a lot of people would say she when a drag queen is in character. Of course that's my interpretation of the conversation but I think it's logical since in the L&L show everyone so far (including friends of his) have referred to Danny as "he" even when talking about him on launch night when he was in Drag

That's how I interpreted it also. They (BB) gracefully answered and weren't requiring or pressuring him to use any pronoun specifically. Mickey seemed legitimately confused is all... now if he uses "he" instead and they gave him a warning, then that would be very different.

My impression is that Danny would just like to be treated as a person at the end of the day.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

People are just very very quick to be outraged and triggered.

Yeah … JoJo definitely made the most of the opportunity

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Maru

That's how I interpreted it also. They (BB) gracefully answered and weren't requiring or pressuring him to use any pronoun specifically. Mickey seemed legitimately confused is all... now if he uses "he" instead and they gave him a warning, then that would be very different.

My impression is that Danny would just like to be treated as a person at the end of the day.

Yes, i agree with all that

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sadly for Big Brother they did not get that reply to the White House email

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Sadly for Big Brother they did not get that reply to the White House email

Is that a cheap way of shutting people down?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Is that a cheap way of shutting people down?

Its a cheap way of keeping captured idiots from wasting your time

and its very efficient too

win

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Its a cheap way of keeping captured idiots from wasting your time

and its very efficient too

win

Would you be saying that if the Democrats were doing this to Republican journalists?

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Its a cheap way of keeping captured idiots from wasting your time

and its very efficient too

win

But they don’t refer to a body of water by its actual name.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

But they don’t refer to a body of water by its actual name.

when bodies of water start emailing in I will update you

[Abra]

At first I thought the "everything's about you" comment may have just been a joke that he thought Danny could take, but I do think that Danny picked up on his energy early on.

But if he does harbour some feelings about trans women and he is reflecting that onto Danny, it's misplaced because Danny is a drag queen, not a trans woman. Those are two entirely different things.

Unless they really come to blows at some point I could see Daley coming round to Danny and perhaps realising that the pre-conceptions he possibly has in his head about people like Danny aren't actually true.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Abra

At first I thought the "everything's about you" comment may have just been a joke that he thought Danny could take, but I do think that Danny picked up on his energy early on.

But if he does harbour some feelings about trans women and he is reflecting that onto Danny, it's misplaced because Danny is a drag queen, not a trans woman. Those are two entirely different things.

Unless they really come to blows at some point I could see Daley coming round to Danny and perhaps realising that the pre-conceptions he possibly has in his head about people like Danny aren't actually true.

Yes, he could well do.

At least Danny
is Normal looking now.




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[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Abra

At first I thought the "everything's about you" comment may have just been a joke that he thought Danny could take, but I do think that Danny picked up on his energy early on.

But if he does harbour some feelings about trans women and he is reflecting that onto Danny, it's misplaced because Danny is a drag queen, not a trans woman. Those are two entirely different things.

Unless they really come to blows at some point I could see Daley coming round to Danny and perhaps realising that the pre-conceptions he possibly has in his head about people like Danny aren't actually true.

That’s the problem with the uneducated. They don’t seem to be able to differentiate between drag queens and transgender people.

Maybe Daley has a brain in his head and will think differently.

Danny even said in last nights episode that there seems to be a fine line between trans and drag.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Sadly for Big Brother they did not get that reply to the White House email

Yes,
she is doing a great job.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Abra

At first I thought the "everything's about you" comment may have just been a joke that he thought Danny could take, but I do think that Danny picked up on his energy early on.

But if he does harbour some feelings about trans women and he is reflecting that onto Danny, it's misplaced because Danny is a drag queen, not a trans woman. Those are two entirely different things.

Unless they really come to blows at some point I could see Daley coming round to Danny and perhaps realising that the pre-conceptions he possibly has in his head about people like Danny aren't actually true.

that is a lot of unfounded conjecture, it reads like fan fiction

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes,
she is doing a great job.

Everything that comes out of her mouth is a proven lie.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes, he could well do.

At least Danny
is Normal looking now.




Photo taken by Zizu
from the Live Feed

Well yeah... but even when Danny wasn't "normal" looking I don't understand why it's being made into a big deal. It's a drag performance, a character, an art form that has existed for generations. The entire point of Danny's medium of performance is to not look normal, but that's not how they live in everyday life.

It seems like these days some people are so desperate to try and politicise drag when it's literally just a style of performance.

Even the whole thing about pronouns when it comes to drag is being so blown out of proportion. If someone is referring to a drag queen while in drag as "she" it's meant as a sort of joke, a wink wink, it's meant to be a light hearted way of showing that you are in on the joke and going along with the gag, it's not that they are literally asking you to believe that they are a woman. I swear common sense just doesn't exist with quite a few people on this site.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

that is a lot of unfounded conjecture, it reads like fan fiction

...Or it's me watching Big Brother and giving my opinion on how I read a situation and where I think it could possibly go in the future, you know... like sort of the point of a forum. You would think someone with over 100,000 posts would grasp that concept but hey ho.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Abra

Well yeah... but even when Danny wasn't "normal" looking I don't understand why it's being made into a big deal. It's a drag performance, a character, an art form that has existed for generations. The entire point of Danny's medium of performance is to not look normal, but that's not how they live in everyday life.

Don't really wanna get involved is this usual shitshow, but tbf, if seeing Danny (or any drag queen) for the first time and they're in full make up, then waking up the next day to see them completely out of make up will come as a shock. Just because of how different the person looks.

It wouldn't be unreasonable for anyone to be like "omg i can't get over how different you look out of make up". Nothing to do with prejudice or any kind of phobia, it's just a natural human reaction.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Abra

...Or it's me watching Big Brother and giving my opinion on how I read a situation and where I think it could possibly go in the future, you know... like sort of the point of a forum. You would think someone with over 100,000 posts would grasp that concept but hey ho.

no need to snap

[Abra]

Originally Posted by Swan

Don't really wanna get involved is this usual shitshow, but tbf, if seeing Danny (or any drag queen) for the first time and they're in full make up, then waking up the next day to see them completely out of make up will come as a shock. Just because of how different the person looks.

It wouldn't be unreasonable for anyone to be like "omg i can't get over how different you look out of make up". Nothing to do with prejudice or any kind of phobia, it's just a natural human reaction.

I agree, of course people can and will be surprised to see how Danny looks out of drag especially for the first time, but that wasn't the point I was making.

[Cherie]

I don't associate trans with drag queens, given some drag acts are straight males, but drag queens rather than coming under different umbrellas have been assimilated into the LGBTQ community and seem to be over protected by that community no matter what. I don't think Daley did anything wrong, they were laughing in the bedroom about it after, and last night when they went into the store room to collect their prizes Daley and Danny were laughing again, think people are trying to cause an issue where there isn't one, time will tell of course, I also find it amusing that there is a protection afforded to some groups when it comes to critisizing brown people that are not afforded to the rest of us

[Beso]

Danny seems very eager to persecute people on their looks.

Twice he's done it so far.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't associate trans with drag queens, given some drag acts are straight males, but drag queens rather than coming under different umbrellas have been assimilated into the LGBTQ community and seem to be over protected by that community no matter what. I don't think Daley did anything wrong, they were laughing in the bedroom about it after, and last night when they went into the store room to collect their prizes Daley and Danny were laughing again, think people are trying to cause an issue where there isn't one, time will tell of course, I also find it amusing that there is a protection afforded to some groups when it comes to critisizing brown people that are not afforded to the rest of us

The vast majority of drag queens are gay men. They are already in the community by default.

And what is the point you are making about brown people? I feel like I missed something.