[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes but not all jobs

Long term it's going to have a much bigger impact than Indian immigrants imo.

I hope to be proven wrong about that, but I think that it is something that the regular citizens in this country should be deeply concerned about.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Long term it's going to have a much bigger impact than Indian immigrants imo.

I hope to be proven wrong about that, but I think that it is something that the regular citizens in this country should be deeply concerned about.

Long term, we are talking about the here and now, Labour want to get the disabled back to work ...and are going to withdraw their PIP, now they will be in competition with Indian workers who have an NI tax break, so how do you think that will pan out for anyone looking for work who does not have an NI tax break?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Long term, we are talking about the here and now, Labour want to get the disabled back to work ...and are going to withdraw their PIP, now they will be in competition with Indian workers who have an NI tax break, so how do you think that will pan out for anyone looking for work who does not have an NI tax break?

I get that, but long term issues are always the more important issues to try and fix before they become intrinsic to our society.

I personally agree that this deal isn't the fairest with India, but some people need to start realizing that Immigration is not our biggest problem when it comes to job security anymore.

I know that I've said it quite bluntly, but imo it's what I'm more fearful of.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get that, but long term issues are always the more important issues to try and fix before they become intrinsic to our society.

I personally agree that this deal isn't the fairest with India, but some people need to start realizing that Immigration is not our biggest problem when it comes to job security anymore.

I know that I've said it quite bluntly, but imo it's what I'm more fearful of.

Its nothing to do with Immigration, its removing the level playing field, and the idea that employers are crying out for disabled people when in reality they dont want to take them on and this will make it even more difficult so people are going to lose their PIP with no hope of getting a job

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its nothing to do with Immigration, its removing the level playing field, and the idea that employers are crying out for disabled people when in reality they dont want to take them on and this will make it even more difficult so people are going to lose their PIP with no hope of getting a job

Unfortunately for disabled people they will always be treated like tokens at these corporations, again regardless of any deals.

Governments work the same way, they don't really care about disabled people if we go with previous Governments too.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get that, but long term issues are always the more important issues to try and fix before they become intrinsic to our society.

I personally agree that this deal isn't the fairest with India, but some people need to start realizing that Immigration is not our biggest problem when it comes to job security anymore.

I know that I've said it quite bluntly, but imo it's what I'm more fearful of.

This has been going on since the Luddites. They had a real issue, worried technology would strip jobs from people. But they didn't also have to contend with foreign workers being taxed less than Brits and taking their jobs. Which is the issue here.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

This has been going on since the Luddites. They had a real issue, worried technology would strip jobs from people. But they didn't also have to contend with foreign workers being taxed less than Brits and taking their jobs. Which is the issue here.

Fair point.