[Beso]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Wish he would.

Here you go.

[MTVN]

Any link to this story?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bots

there is more road unlit than lit across the UK. Motorways are not the most dangerous roads

I can testify to this.

We have a road in our Town Centre that has no Traffic Lights.

[thesheriff443]

Someone running round with a gun or a knife can wound and kill a few innocent people but someone wearing a suit can torture and kill millions of innocent people.

[LaLaLand]

Slightly off topic here but does anyone else really miss the old orange street lights!? I do!

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Any link to this story?

No


It is a terrible thread


Google Search:
[Permanent Removal of Lights:
In some cases, lights are permanently removed
from certain areas, especially where there
is a good safety record and analysis suggests
it won't negatively impact road safety.]



https://www.google.com/search?client...+street+lights

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Ive seen that in some Italian motorways. I don't know how people drive through that at night

Workers do.
they have no choice

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by arista

No


It is a terrible thread


Google Search:
[Permanent Removal of Lights:
In some cases, lights are permanently removed
from certain areas, especially where there
is a good safety record and analysis suggests
it won't negatively impact road safety.]



https://www.google.com/search?client...+street+lights

Yes this feels like fake news. Not a new gov policy unless someone can show otherwise

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yes this feels like fake news. Not a new gov policy unless someone can show otherwise

I think Zizu has driven in it
and is Shocked.


It is a big change.


Warning signs should be at the Start
and a Light on them.

[arista]

Several Councils are now bankrupt, around 11
So, turning off street lights could increase

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yes this feels like fake news. Not a new gov policy unless someone can show otherwise

I would guess fake news is a fair description probably.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I would guess fake news is a fair description probably.

No Joey,
some council's are now trying Road Lights off

In order to save money

[Kate!]

I'll re title the thread.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

No Joey,
some council's are now trying Road Lights off

In order to save money

It's not as presented being a government policy.
Plus the lights have been being dimmed and even switched off for years past in some areas.
It's not new.
I often drive on unlit roads, where there's not even any lights to switch on.
People shouldn't drive if they cannot drive in the dark.

Of course Councils need to save funds and should, however they've been hammered as to funding for the last 15 years.

As was asked however, where is any link that this IS this government's policy.
Can you supply that link then please since no one else seems able to?

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It's not as presented being a government policy.
Plus the lights have been being dimmed and even switched off for years past in some areas.
It's not new.
I often drive on unlit roads, where there's not even any lights to switch on.
People shouldn't drive if they cannot drive in the dark.

Of course Councils need to save funds and should, however they've been hammered as to funding for the last 15 years.

As was asked however, where is any link that this IS this government's policy.
Can you supply that link then please since no one else seems able to?

Yes it is not Labour Policy Yet.

But Councils are doing it as tests

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I'll re title the thread.

Good
One Kate


As Ed is going to have to bring it in
officially, soon.



PM Starmer will call another,
early conference at a well early morning time

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes it is not Labour Policy Yet.

But Councils are doing it as tests

So the answer is it's not IN FACT official policy then, I'll more take your word on that.
Whether it's yet or not yet or maybe never.

Councils can do tests, that's up to individual councils.
This was happening way back in 2014 at least anyhow..
It's NOT a new thing.

I still haven't seen any official link posted as to this however.
Presumably you haven't found a conclusive one either it seems.

[arista]

[I still haven't seen any official link posted as to this however.]

You won't, as that will stop Ed's Plan.

You can find out the Future Plans
if you could have 5mins with Ed

[bots]

government don't pay the electricity bills for all the public roads in the UK, it's local councils/residents that do that. I would imagine they have a ton of data on what areas need to be lit and those that don't across their council areas

[Beso]

Sometimes people have to drive In the dark, like for health emergency or sons and daughters neefing picked up from sticky situations...Its not all about can't drive in the dark, so shouldn't be driving.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

[I still haven't seen any official link posted as to this however.]

You won't, as that will stop Ed's Plan.

You can find out the Future Plans
if you could have 5mins with Ed

No thank you, I don't want any minutes with Ed Miliband.

It's good though YOU seen to be privileged to know that it's a concrete plan of his.
Even without ANY OFFICIAL substantiation that you can show it IS what WILL be done.
Despite it virtually having been being done for over 10 years anyhow.

There's roads across the UK which have never EVER had any lighting on them.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bots

government don't pay the electricity bills for all the public roads in the UK, it's local councils/residents that do that. I would imagine they have a ton of data on what areas need to be lit and those that don't across their council areas

Exactly correct
Nice to read a fair comment, thank you.

[Beso]

They tried it in 2009, then realised it was to dangerous after numerous crashes

[Livia]

I would like a breakdown of how the Road Fund License is spent. Paid for by the put-upon motorist, another tax to go alongside the 53 pence we pay in tax PER LITRE of fuel, then the 20% VAT we pay on the price of petrol at the pump after duty has been added. Then there's all the ULEZ and congestion charges, tolls on roads, tunnels and bridges, the cost of parking... I think the least we can expect is that we have some lights on motorways when it's dark.