[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Can you imagine Eurovision organising a song contest in Tel-Aviv next year!

it was definitely rigged so that could never happen

I do agree with you on this.

But the public only voted Israel at the top because of Political reasons, rather than thinking it was the best song.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

BBC presenter and Eurovision stalwart Graham Norton has caused
controversy among viewers thanks to his remarks about Israeli singer Yuval
Raphael.

The 24-year-old singer, who survived the Hamas attack on the Nova music
festival on October 7, 2023, was fourth up on Saturday and sang her ballad
New Day Will Rise, which was inspired by the ordeal.

Raphael was one of just 11 survivors from a group of around 50 people who
took refuge in a concrete bomb shelter during the attack, using dead bodies as
a shield for eight hours until she was rescued.

Meanwhile introducing her Norton said: "She only began singing professionally in 2023, and you can see why; she has an extraordinary voice, and it's a big, powerful ballad. Also, very nicely staged."


no mention of her ordeal or what inspired her -

I don't think that Graham Norton did anything wrong here.

He was being impartial.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The winning song was excellent and he was clearly the best singer .. I just didn’t like his Kate Bush in the verses.. but loved the operatic chorus

I agree with you tbh.

[Maru]

Sh*t's still going down in Spain. It's only a little bit of a dumpster fire:

Melody cancels her schedule with RTVE (Broadcaster) after Eurovision and will travel directly to Seville.

After a night marked by disappointment and controversy with Spain, second to last in Eurovision 2025 , Melody reportedly decided at the last minute to take a break and cancel her scheduled agenda with RTVE and not return to Madrid with the Spanish delegation to travel directly to Seville with her family, as exclusively revealed by the Telecinco program, Socialité .

The singer from Seville has expressed her gratitude for the support she has received throughout Spain after finishing 24th in the Eurovision Song Contest this Saturday with her song Esa Diva , and she praised art and music, " even though other things sometimes prevail ": "I am very happy and very satisfied because we won. Love is above all. And long live art and music, even though other things sometimes prevail, but long live art," the singer said in a video posted on her Instagram after finishing the Eurovision final.

Despite this, the singer affirms that she will keep with her "the love, affection, and respect" that all the countries have shown behind the scenes. "I'm very happy; the dancers are amazing. I'm very happy. But I do want to make one thing clear: this is just one more thing, and what I'm keeping with me is the love, affection, and respect that all the countries have shown us and our work behind the scenes, because everyone's mouths were open."

Melody stated that Spain has fully supported her, as evidenced by videos from several Spanish stadiums. "They sent me I don't know how many videos of packed stadiums to watch the performance . I'm very satisfied with the performance and I think we did a great job," she stated.

Sometimes you find little gems like this on X:

Translation: "We don’t know what happened with the blackout, but we’re going to investigate the televoting."

Govt hard at work avoiding investigating its own performance to investigate votes for a music competition Can't make this up...

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Can you imagine Eurovision organising a song contest in Tel-Aviv next year!

it was definitely rigged so that could never happen

It’d likely be hosted elsewhere, like when Ukraine won.

[bots]

there is literally no reason to rig the competition. It's not like the winner gets a significant career bump. There is no money these days even in a hit single. Those days have long gone

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

It’d likely be hosted elsewhere, like when Ukraine won.

But can you imagine the hoo-ha had Israel won?

[Crimson Dynamo]

This left-wing pos tried to storm the stage and pour red paint signifying blood on a young girl singing at a music festival who herself on Oct 7th 2023 had to hide under dead bodies for hours to survive death at a music festival

what is wrong with these deranged marxists?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

This left-wing pos tried to storm the stage and pour red paint signifying blood on a young girl singing at a music festival who herself on Oct 7th 2023 had to hide under dead bodies for hours to survive death at a music festival

what is wrong with these deranged marxists?

Sickening little runt.

[Maru]

I am still following post-Eurovision Spain drama. They are super melty over there and the fallout itself has led to uproar against their own establishment. Apparently, it seems?, the govt has been digging in its heels over Israel because they are distracting from the rotting garbage on their own lawn. So it's been said it's funny they want to investigate the vote because so many there voted Israel, meanwhile the govt is pro-Palestine and state media.

There is still fallout obviously their act placing so badly with so many people saying they don't want to participate again because either it's become too political or just Europe not really feeling Spanish music in general.. so why bother, etc? Also, not fair that the channel involved didn't seem to care how it would negatively impact the artist's work... supposedly they tried to pressure the Israel singer privately and the broadcaster has had journalists banned in the past for politically charged behavior. But those were translated commentary bits I was reading so massive grain of salt...

I think not surprising that politics yet again ruins a good thing for some people, but, it is comical the level at which this seems to have gone locally. Some conspiracies but hard to follow with Google translate. I knew I should've learned Spanish...

Spanish PM claims Israel's Eurovision participation shows EBU's double standard
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/culture/article-854587

Was Eurovision FIXED? Major TV networks demand probe after Israel came second
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...me-second.html

Eurovision 2025: Spanish broadcaster to request audit after surge in Israel votes
https://www.thejc.com/news/world/spa...srael-seig8dbq

Virtually everything I have seen per online recorded video commentary was either panning politicization of their entry or pro-Israel. Opposition yes, but limited to a few replies (comments) here and there. So at least appears to match up with televote...

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Maru

I am still following post-Eurovision Spain drama. They are super melty over there and the fallout itself has led to uproar against their own establishment. Apparently, it seems?, the govt has been digging in its heels over Israel because they are distracting from the rotting garbage on their own lawn. So it's been said it's funny they want to investigate the vote because so many there voted Israel, meanwhile the govt is pro-Palestine and state media.

There is still fallout obviously their act placing so badly with so many people saying they don't want to participate again because either it's become too political or just Europe not really feeling Spanish music in general.. so why bother, etc? Also, not fair that the channel involved didn't seem to care how it would negatively impact the artist's work... supposedly they tried to pressure the Israel singer privately and the broadcaster has had journalists banned in the past for politically charged behavior. But those were translated commentary bits I was reading so massive grain of salt...

I think not surprising that politics yet again ruins a good thing for some people, but, it is comical the level at which this seems to have gone locally. Some conspiracies but hard to follow with Google translate. I knew I should've learned Spanish...

Spanish PM claims Israel's Eurovision participation shows EBU's double standard
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/culture/article-854587

Was Eurovision FIXED? Major TV networks demand probe after Israel came second
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...me-second.html

Eurovision 2025: Spanish broadcaster to request audit after surge in Israel votes
https://www.thejc.com/news/world/spa...srael-seig8dbq

Virtually everything I have seen per online recorded video commentary was either panning politicization of their entry or pro-Israel. Opposition yes, but limited to a few replies (comments) here and there. So at least appears to match up with televote...

and let the head of the EBU reference group be the one from Spain

[Nicky91]

we want Israel dq'd and then everyone else moving up one place who were below them in the results


Estonia with Tommy Cash is the actual runner up

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

we want Israel dq'd and then everyone else moving up one place who were below them in the results


Estonia with Tommy Cash is the actual runner up

Weren't you supporting Israel last week? Now you want them disqualified?

[Vanessa]

I voted for Israel over Spain. I just preferred their song.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I voted for Israel over Spain. I just preferred their song.

I voted neither but Israel’s was by far better than Spain’s.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I voted for Israel over Spain. I just preferred their song.

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I voted neither but Israel’s was by far better than Spain’s.

it is not about the Spain entry? the spanish PM Sanchez questions if really that many spanish people did vote for Israel


and i said this is going to be interesting considering Spain is leading the reference group as of this year with upcoming talks about israel's future participation in the contest



but yeah if Israel leave, and we get countries like Romania, Moldova, Andorra, Monaco back, we gain more countries than who are leaving, and there is always North Macedonia whom might return some day whenever they want to, since they still broadcast it anyway, more like whenever an artist has a good song on stand by, and if an artist can fund the whole participation

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

Weren't you supporting Israel last week? Now you want them disqualified?

because i got backed into a corner, scared into thinking i could come across as antisemitic


but thankfully on the night of the final, i had enough balls not to vote for Israel, but i voted for Latvia, those impressive fairies, beautiful harmonies unlike the UK

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

because i got backed into a corner, scared into thinking i could come across as antisemitic


but thankfully on the night of the final, i had enough balls not to vote for Israel, but i voted for Latvia, those impressive fairies, beautiful harmonies unlike the UK

No body would think you were anti-Semitic for not liking a song.

[jones89]

Yeah Israel’s song was amazing. She was just amazing, great voice, everything. Deserved second place.. Spain did deserve better too though

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by jones89

Yeah Israel’s song was amazing. She was just amazing, great voice, everything. Deserved second place.. Spain did deserve better too though

See I found Spain’s really forgettable. It’s one of the few songs I can’t even really remember as it left that little impression on me.

[joeysteele]

I'd never support Israel being disqualified or to be blocked from being in the Contest.
My only thoughts is, bless them, why they'd want to be in it with all the unnecessary and grossly unfair negativity they get thrown at them.

It's not now really, in MY view, a serious song contest, it's a more fun evening with good, fair or even some bad entertainment.
However still one of the better nights on TV, it was a great night here on TIBB too.
Anything that has loads of different Countries performing together is welcomed by me.

The Israeli entry however was a beautiful song, performed extremely good by a very strong singer too and it warranted the success it achieved.
Yes I preferred Austria and Lithuania as winners myself, however as is the case most years, Israel was right up there with being a possible winner too.
Well done to them.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'd never support Israel being disqualified or to be blocked from being in the Contest.
My only thoughts is, bless them, why they'd want to be in it with all the unnecessary and grossly unfair negativity they get thrown at them.

It's not now really, in MY view, a serious song contest, it's a more fun evening with good, fair or even some bad entertainment.
However still one of the better nights on TV, it was a great night here on TIBB too.
Anything that has loads of different Countries performing together is welcomed by me.

The Israeli entry however was a beautiful song, performed extremely good by a very strong singer too and it warranted the success it achieved.
Yes I preferred Austria and Lithuania as winners myself, however as is the case most years, Israel was right up there with being a possible winner too.
Well done to them.

because they know they can milk the victim card until the last drop


Yuval a strong singer lmao not at all, more like this having been cheap for the broadcaster KAN with Yuval and her family paying for the participation, staging, promo work

[Nicky91]

Spain was not bad, but not great, wasn't among my faves, but it was better than some of their recent entries i thought



i preferred Latvia or Luxembourg as possible winners from that grand final, and wouldn't have minded a back to back swiss win, as Zoe performed it excellently well

[Nicky91]

am i against Israel competing at eurovision?

No


i am just against the bigots at the broadcaster KAN and their government, who more want clichéd, washed up sob story ballads as their entries


i myself would love a fun act like Balkan Beat Box next year from them, but i doubt it, since those guys never go releasing ''political propaganda'' songs

[Maru]

They're leaking Melody's contracts now and trying to determine whether the TV station will sanction the singer in Spain for a breach. It's seeming to be because she refusing to be politicized and has retreated from public view for the time being (but promises a press conference at some point...). And this has made the networks/shows she was supposed to be on "first" post-competition very melty and unhappy. She is technically someone's product though and that's another discussion also.

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'd never support Israel being disqualified or to be blocked from being in the Contest.
My only thoughts is, bless them, why they'd want to be in it with all the unnecessary and grossly unfair negativity they get thrown at them.

It's not now really, in MY view, a serious song contest, it's a more fun evening with good, fair or even some bad entertainment.
However still one of the better nights on TV, it was a great night here on TIBB too.
Anything that has loads of different Countries performing together is welcomed by me.

The Israeli entry however was a beautiful song, performed extremely good by a very strong singer too and it warranted the success it achieved.
Yes I preferred Austria and Lithuania as winners myself, however as is the case most years, Israel was right up there with being a possible winner too.
Well done to them.

That's about the same energy as I watch Big Brother. Modern politics is cancerous and shows no discrimination in terms of where it intrude, infect and infest. This is the aim So I'll enjoy what we have while we have it. The alternative is we all stand within the same room but can't look actually look at each other as human beings who generally should enjoy similar things and I'd prefer that not be the case for my children...