[Glenn.]

Definitely not the same

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Livia

It worries me some people are gleeful of the McCann's suffering. I also dislike the occasional comparison with the Shannon Matthews case which was an entirely different kettle of fish.

I'm certainly not 'gleeful' , anyone losing a child must be unbearable pain ... especially knowing they were likely suffering & scared in their last moments.

The comparison was merely a class & background comparison , I know the Shannon Matthews case isn't the same. But Karen Mathews was proven an unfit unemployed / on benefit not very bright parent....and social services was involved & several of her kids were put into care ..if I'm not mistaken?.

The McCann's neglected all 3 of their children , so you would think child services would have given them a knock on the door. It happened in Portugal...but still there must be some concerns raised over the safety of their other children?. But the McCann's are 2 intelligent well presented , financially secure people with respectable good jobs.

I think classism plays a part , I know not everyone will agree with me.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I'm certainly not 'gleeful' , anyone losing a child must be unbearable pain ... especially knowing they were likely suffering & scared in their last moments.

The comparison was merely a class & background comparison , I know the Shannon Matthews case isn't the same. But Karen Mathews was proven an unfit unemployed / on benefit not very bright parent....and social services was involved & several of her kids were put into care ..if I'm not mistaken?.

The McCann's neglected all 3 of their children , so you would think child services would have given them a knock on the door. It happened in Portugal...but still there must be some concerns raised over the safety of their other children?. But the McCann's are 2 intelligent well presented , financially secure people with respectable good jobs.

I think classism plays a part , I know not everyone will agree with me.

Spot on

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Livia

Sophie Hook was snatched from a tent in her uncle's back garden in the 90s. She was murdered. Don't remember all the hate directed at her parents. Was it negligent? Yes, probably. Do the parents need their grief compounded by strangers? Definitely not. Same with the McCanns.

I'm not familiar with that case but it doesn't sound like the same,but this is the point I'm making....the fact that even in a family
friendly home setting horrible crimes can still happen.

Then surely as a parent/s you'd be alot more careful & wary and would think twice about leaving your kids alone like that, especially small children who need constant supervision .

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I'm certainly not 'gleeful' , anyone losing a child must be unbearable pain ... especially knowing they were likely suffering & scared in their last moments.

The comparison was merely a class & background comparison , I know the Shannon Matthews case isn't the same. But Karen Mathews was proven an unfit unemployed / on benefit not very bright parent....and social services was involved & several of her kids were put into care ..if I'm not mistaken?.

The McCann's neglected all 3 of their children , so you would think child services would have given them a knock on the door. It happened in Portugal...but still there must be some concerns raised over the safety of their other children?. But the McCann's are 2 intelligent well presented , financially secure people with respectable good jobs.

I think classism plays a part , I know not everyone will agree with me.

I wasn't referring to you with the "gleeful" comment.

I would never leave my kids alone and the fact they did was shameful, i just feel more hate is aimed at the McCanns than at the person who took the little girl.

Yes, perhaps classism plays a part in this kind of thing. It does in so many things.

[arista]

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Sky News Text:
[Police are to conduct fresh searches
near the former home of
the prime suspect in
Madeleine McCann's disappearance,
the Telegraph reports.

It says about 30 German police
and forensic specialists will be involved
in Portugal's Algarve.]

[Mystic Mock]

Hopefully they can finally resolve this case.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Hopefully they can finally resolve this case.

Many doubt that.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

Many doubt that.

I know.

But I just hope for everyone that's personally involved, that they finally get the closure that they deserve.

[arista]

GMBHD itv

Have sent their reporter to be Live in Portugal
Richard Gasford who was also there in 2007.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disapp...deleine_McCann

[arista]

[Madeleine in 2007, aged three,

and forensic artist's impression of what
she may have looked like in 2012, aged nine]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disapp...deleine_McCann

[arista]

An independent reporter Jon Clarke
spoke live from Portugal.

This area the German Police are at today
has not been searched.


For 10 years near that location
The arrested one (Christian Brueckner) in Germany
lived there.

[Gusto Brunt]

Hmm, Gerry McCann - that's all I'm saying...

And have been saying since Maddie went 'missing'.

[arista]

SkyNewsHD Live

Also have their reporter there.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I know.

But I just hope for everyone that's personally involved, that they finally get the closure that they deserve.

Agreed


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Hmm, Gerry McCann - that's all I'm saying...

And have been saying since Maddie went 'missing'.

Na

I simply cannot and refuse to believe that the parents were involved in her disappearance other than making a very poor decision on the night


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[Vicky.]

I think the kids were all sedated so the parents could drink uninterrupted. And Madeleine had a fall. And it was too late to do anything about it by the time of the next 'check'(which were not every 15 mins)

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think the kids were all sedated so the parents could drink uninterrupted. And Madeleine had a fall. And it was too late to do anything about it by the time of the next 'check'(which were not every 15 mins)

Yes that why it would be easy to carry her out of that room
into a Van.


For Example

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think the kids were all sedated so the parents could drink uninterrupted. And Madeleine had a fall. And it was too late to do anything about it by the time of the next 'check'(which were not every 15 mins)

I just can’t believe stuff like that .. there were known paedos in the area .. too easy to walk around at night and take a child ..presumably the guy had been observing the family or many families behaviour


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[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I know.

But I just hope for everyone that's personally involved, that they finally get the closure that they deserve.

I doubt they will ever get closure, even if the mystery is solved. I doubt they will ever be able to forgive themselves for the errors they made that night.