[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If it was a paedo but there is Zero evidence to say she was taken by a paedo is there?

Surely the odds suggest that it would be though compared to the other options

A paedophile
A loving mum and dad
A complete random stranger


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I wouldn't leave my children in the first place however if my only two options (for some bizarre reason) was to leave 3 children under 4 alone in the apartment or hire a babysitter through the Hotel I'd be taking the latter option

None of us here would …


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[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

None of us here would …


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Then why are you defending it

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Then why are you defending it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Surely the odds suggest that it would be though compared to the other options

A paedophile
A loving mum and dad
A complete random stranger


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As you keep ignoring, chances are most likely for it to have been the parents, odds wise.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How can you compare getting distracted in a Supermarket to leaving 3 virtual babies alone in an apartment while you went out drinking with your friends? Crazy. There are actual laws about leaving children that young alone like that

You word it to make it suit your agenda they were on holiday from memory the apartment was 150 metres from we’re they were sitting
And they were checking on them

They didn’t book a holiday and left the kids at home

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You word it to make it suit your agenda they were on holiday from memory the apartment was 150 metres from we’re they were sitting
And they were checking on them

They didn’t book a holiday and left the kids at home

I don't have an agenda, why would I want it to be her parents? I'm just looking at the evidence in front of me I would have to go and look this up again but iirc it was 150/200metres away "as the crow flies" but there was a swimming pool in between (where the unlocked patio door opened on to another major danger to leaving them alone at night) and you had to take a longer walk along the main road to actually get to the front door

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You word it to make it suit your agenda they were on holiday from memory the apartment was 150 metres from we’re they were sitting
And they were checking on them

They didn’t book a holiday and left the kids at home

150 metres is obviously to far. Far to exhausting for one person to keep checking all night, perhaps that's why the mcannns had other non relative adults take their turn to check their private hotel room that their kids were alone in...



Couple of weirdos imo.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There's as much evidence of a stranger having kidnapped Maddie as any other theory in this case (which is zero) The one thing we do know for sure is that Maddies parents left her and her younger siblings alone in the apartment and went out for the evening. Perhaps that is why people tend to focus on that part of it. So far there has been no link between this German guy and Maddie other than he was in that area at the time

I'll just add my agreement to this post too.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Then why are you defending it

People are all different

They are possibly in the minority, who knows

They made a decision that ended tragically, I just don’t believe that they are monsters and I feel so sorry for all the grief ( from all sides) that they have had to live with every minute since that terrible night


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[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

People are all different

They are possibly in the minority, who knows

They made a decision that ended tragically, I just don’t believe that they are monsters and I feel so sorry for all the grief ( from all sides) that they have had to live with every minute since that terrible night


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I don’t feel sorry for them one bit. I believe they are monsters who should have face criminal charges.

[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

Spoiler:

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[Zizu]

When she first disappeared her parents struggled to get the Portuguese authorities to take it seriously, turning to the media to make appeals for anyone who might have seen her.
The apartment from which she vanished while her parents were having a meal at a nearby restaurant on the holiday complex was not properly sealed off, so vital forensic clues were lost.
Searches at the time were not rigorous and seemed unstructured. For a while, her own parents Gerry and Kate McCann fell under suspicion.
On and off tensions between the Portuguese and British police ran through those early years. From 2011, the Metropolitan Police took the lead, spending more than Ł13m. Fresh searches took place in 2014 but it seemed that time had obscured any evidence that might lead to the person responsible for her abduction.
Then in 2020, everything changed when prosecutors in Braunschweig, Germany, and officers from the BKA (Bundeskriminalamt) - the German equivalent of the FBI - said they had a suspect. Not just a suspect for the disappearance of Madeleine, but a suspect for her murder - a word never used by the British police.
It became clear that their suspect is Christian Brückner, who was jailed in Germany in 2019 for raping an elderly American woman in Portugal in 2005.
A drifter and petty criminal, he had spent much of his time between 2000 and 2017 in the Algarve.
The Braunschweig prosecutors, led by Hans Christian Wolters, believe Brückner may have committed many more sexual offences in Portugal.
But he was acquitted at a trial last year of three counts of rape and two counts of sexually assaulting children. Through his lawyers he has also adamantly denied any link to Madeleine.
The publicly-known evidence against him is based on comments he is alleged to have made to a friend about Madeleine's death, and on the fact a phone linked to him was in Praia da Luz on the night she disappeared.
It now seems that there was some data available to the Portuguese police all along about who might have been in the town that night. Data that could have been mapped against known criminals, and that might have led to more targeted searches in 2007 or the years that followed.
But as we stand on the Trilho dos Pescadores watching the German detectives searching through ruined buildings and old wells for Madeleine's body or anything that might give some clues to her disappearance, it all feels like it is 18 years too late.


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[Zizu]

The Braunschweig prosecutors, led by Hans Christian Wolters, believe Brückner may have committed many more sexual offences in Portugal.
But he was acquitted at a trial last year of three counts of rape and two counts of sexually assaulting children. Through his lawyers he has also adamantly denied any link to Madeleine.
The publicly-known evidence against him is based on comments he is alleged to have made to a friend about Madeleine's death, and on the FACT that a phone linked to him was in Praia da Luz on the night she disappeared.


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[Redway]

It’s not ever going to end, is it?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

It’s not ever going to end, is it?

Hopefully it will end with these latest findings and searches ..


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This.

I'm not going to speculate on this case anymore, it regularly keeps coming up in the news.
Generally with nothing more substantiated in the end.

I recall long debates on here years back, as to what could have been what happened.
I was strongly persuaded by a very determined Chuff me dizzy on this that these parents know much more than they've said.
She didn't hold back and was convincing.
That's all I'll now say on it except for a lot of the behaviour of the parents has always been extremely odd in my view.
As I said Chuff, convinced me more about this sad, tragic and unnecessary loss of a child.
Which certainly was a result in a big part by the NEGLIGENCE of BOTH parents at the time.

Chuff was always very good at making a convincing argument.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I am very glad that the twins weren’t removed from their care…I think their world would have been scary enough and completely turned upside down enough that the best thing for them at the time was the consistency of being in the care of their parents …and with all of the scrutiny as well from authorities and agencies and the media etc…from every angle and perspective, I feel their safety was fairly assured as well as being in the best place emotionally even with all of the chaos ….anyway, apparently they’re both doing very well in their lives and one of the twins, Shaun is a potential Olympic athlete/swimmer and I just can’t help but feel that at the time after Madeleine’s disappearance…to have placed them into care would have been more detrimental and damaging to them than anything else…

I see where you're coming from.

And I hope that Shaun has a successful Swimming career.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

They’re a middle class white couple, you can guarantee the kids would have been removed if they weren’t

It wouldn't surprise me if them not being Working Class has shielded them from the law either.

Because the UK is still a bit backwards when it comes to the class system.

[bots]

as i've said before, DNA evidence is the only thing that will solve this case, everything else is just noise

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The parents of missing Madeleine McCann left their three children alone in their apartment every night of their holiday because they did not want a stranger to babysit, it has emerged.
But, tragically, the routine may have allowed whoever abducted their daughter the chance to build up a picture of their movements while he planned his crime.


Doctors Kate and Gerry McCann decided not to employ a Ł10-an-hour babysitter to look after Madeleine, three, and two-year-old twins, Sean and Amelie, while they went for dinner, because they "don't like leaving them with strangers", their family said.
Mrs McCann's mother, Susan Healy, said the couple had made a mistake in leaving the children alone, but criticism of them was totally unjustified

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That's a ridiculous excuse..

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Maybe the door was locked and a window left ajar ?

Also that video (even if it was genuine) could have been taken anytime before or after that fateful night


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The guy gives me the chills.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

The guy gives me the chills.

Because I think outside the box ?

I find it concerning that you are so desperate to believe that her parents were involved.

That thought would never cross my mind

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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Because I think outside the box ?

I find it concerning that you are so desperate to believe that her parents were involved.

That thought would never cross my mind

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I presume Gusto is talking about Gerry McCann Zizu