[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Personally I hope that you're right, because it means that all of Khelif's fights were legit, which as someone that loves competitions I do want to see a fair contest, or as fair as humanly possible anyway.

And yeah Raducanu isn't the best Tennis player, but like with Birmingham City Football Club I will keep rooting for her to win major events.

Did you miss the post where the test was leaked and it is confirmed Kalief is biologically male, I dont think you did Mock.... but you are finding it hard to come to terms with the fact that the IOC completely ignored this and allowed women to be put in danger on live tv due to not caring about women and only caring about looking inclusive

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Did you miss the post where the test was leaked and it is confirmed Kalief is biologically male, I dont think you did Mock.... but you are finding it hard to come to terms with the fact that the IOC completely ignored this and allowed women to be put in danger on live tv due to not caring about women and only caring about looking inclusive

Is that test confirmed to be Khelif's?

Because tbh nowadays I never know what to believe when it comes to what the Media reports.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Is that test confirmed to be Khelif's?

Because tbh nowadays I never know what to believe when it comes to what the Media reports.

Why do you think he was banned by the WBO and why the ban was uncontested ...

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Why do you think he was banned by the WBO and why the ban was uncontested ...

Whines about people saying the word "cis" but calls someone who was born and raise female in a country that doesn't recognise trans people in any capacity "he" without seeing any actual evidence or proof... can't work out if that's dumb or just hateful or maybe it's both.

I'm done here.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Whines about people saying the word "cis" but calls someone who was born and raise female in a country that doesn't recognise trans people in any capacity "he" without seeing any actual evidence or proof... can't work out if that's dumb or just hateful or maybe it's both.

I'm done here.

Tbh the reason I referred to him as a 'he' is due to you continually ignoring my requests to stop referring to cis women, cis men, we know what you mean we dont need the prefix, you dont care to accommodate me, so whats good for the goose etc and now who is whining? I could say its hateful or dumb or both to ignore female members requests to quit with the cis nonsense but you carried on anyway as you know best apparently

and what do you mean NO PROOF, so the WBO just banned on a whim did they?

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tbh the reason I referred to him as a 'he' is due to you continually ignoring my requests to stop referring to cis women, cis men, we know what you mean we dont need the prefix, you dont care to accommodate me, so whats good for the goose etc and now who is whining? I could say its hateful or dumb or both to ignore female members requests to quit with the cis nonsense but you carried on anyway as you know best apparently

and what do you mean NO PROOF, so the WBO just banned on a whim did they?

LOL Cherie I am using cis as an adjective to refer to a collective. I’ve told you before if I refer to cis it’s generally, and not aimed at you specifically if that’s not how you identify. Why do you insist on thinking I’m talking about you if you don’t identify as a cis woman? If someone talks about women named Mary do you tell them to stop calling you Mary or do you understand that they’re not talking about you because they know your name isn’t Mary?

Additionally, you don’t complain when I use the word ‘trans women” because it doesn’t apply to you, which is funny because the meaning of the word trans is literally the opposite of the word cis and therefore makes the usage of both words legitimate.

You on the other hand have referred to someone specific, someone born as a female and raised as a female as a MAN. What I do by saying cis and what you do by misgendering someone are two very different things. You must know that.

At the very most she might be intersex or have some other biological anomaly, but that doesn’t mean she’s a man. Do you really think she was born male and then everyone in her life, in a Muslim country, colluded and lied about it and changed her sex and then said Muslim country sent a trans person to the Olympics? Yeah, sounds likely.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Do you really think she was born male and then everyone in her life, in a Muslim country, colluded and lied about it and changed her sex and then said Muslim country sent a trans person to the Olympics? Yeah, sounds likely.

That doesn't sound likely.

What does sound likely in a country that rejects anything other than sex at birth, is that this person was born biologically male but with ambiguous genitalia (not particularly uncommon) and was declared female on their birth certificate, but in fact is biologically male and then underwent male puberty, whilst still being legally classed as female in their country - as that country likely has no legal framework that would allow for changing it, even on discovery that they were actually born male. "The paperwork says female and that's that", I imagine may be the stance.

Spexulation of course, but I think a likely scenario IF it is true that genetic testing has indeed shown them to be biologically male.

In theory; she may not even have known.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Is that test confirmed to be Khelif's?

Because tbh nowadays I never know what to believe when it comes to what the Media reports.

It's not going to be confirmed easily if it involves anything medical

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Maru

It's not going to be confirmed easily if it involves anything medical

True.

I still think that the Media is muddying the waters with all of the speculation.