[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I hate Camilla too so you carry on Zizu. She's a vicious bitch. Her and Charles the twat destroyed Diana.

Sadly we have a few deniers .. praising Camilla for letting her PR people try and rebuild even rebrand her forever tarnished reputation


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[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sadly we have a few deniers .. praising Camilla for letting her PR people try and rebuild even rebrand her forever tarnished reputation


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I do agree, you know that.

However let's respect Livia's request and Arista who made the thread and discuss David Beckham so as not to derail the thread xxxx

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I do agree, you know that.

However let's respect Livia's request and Arista who made the thread and discuss David Beckham so as not to derail the thread xxxx

No worries


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[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yeah lets skate over the facts that the ghastly Camilla was sleeping with Charles ( whilst they were both married) before he married Di and during his marriage to Di … yet Di is the one with issues.

Guess she should have just let them get on with their sordid affair and carry on with what she was chosen for .. hatching and raising a Royal litter ..


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THIS ISN'T A CAMILLA THREAD. Maybe make a thread about your ridiculous and irrational hate and then I can keep out of it. You know nothing about any if them nor about what really happened, none of us do! But you drag it into every thread that mentions the royals it's tiresome at best.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sadly we have a few deniers .. praising Camilla for letting her PR people try and rebuild even rebrand her forever tarnished reputation


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You're the one who believes everything that fits in with your agenda.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I never met Hitler either but I know enough to form an educated opinion ..


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Sorry Ziizu, I'm putting you on ignore for a while for my own sanity.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

You're the one who believes everything that fits in with your agenda.

I lived through the whole sad ‘affair’ ..


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

Sorry Ziizu, I'm putting you on ignore for a while for my own sanity.

No worries .. your loss ultimately

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[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

No worries .. your loss ultimately

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Wrong AGAIN.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

Wrong AGAIN.

You will never know , though




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[rusticgal]

Well I like The Beckhams...they are mega wealthy and I do believe they do a lot for Charity that we do not get to hear about...like many others. Considering this is one criteria that gets awarded then why shouldn't he. He was a Football Icon.
I have met both of them a couple of times and both of them are respectful and pleasant.

As for Camilla...I like her. I loved Diana but she wasn't a Saint. Camilla has respectfully stayed in the background and stayed quiet and that is admirable imo.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well I like The Beckhams...they are mega wealthy and I do believe they do a lot for Charity that we do not get to hear about...like many others. Considering this is one criteria that gets awarded then why shouldn't he. He was a Football Icon.
I have met both of them a couple of times and both of them are respectful and pleasant.

As for Camilla...I like her. I loved Diana but she wasn't a Saint. Camilla has respectfully stayed in the background and stayed quiet and that is admirable imo.

Yes Rusti. I'd love to meet them myself. I have a lot of time for them both. Victoria was my favourite Spice Girl.

[Zizu]

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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's a really nasty comment Zizu about Camilla tbh I'm shocked as Camilla has done so much for charity like womens refuge,and Battersea dogs home which is so close to my heart, what's posh done ? just pouted here and there, and him kicked a ball about.I just thought that comment somewhat below you.

Posh is becoming a Lady because every wife of a Knight is a Lady.

[user104658]

Hmmmm. Thought there was trouble in paradise with the ol' Beckham clan currently? Posh & Becks having issues and the two sons "feuding"/not talking/one of them not talking to the parents etc.

Full disclosure my entire knowledge of this comes from a couple of TikTok videos, I wasn't interested enough to look it up/verify anything.

Also...

Mandela effect here for me - I would have SWORN that Beckham was already knighted years ago .

[Ammi]

…just as a by the by to David Beckham receiving his knighthood, celebrities who have turned down or returned honours…

Alan Cumming
Scottish actor Alan Cumming, 59, handed back his Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) Honour in January 2023 over what he described as his "misgivings" with being associated with the "toxicity" of the British Empire

Michael Sheen
Welsh actor Michael Sheen said he handed back his OBE in 2017 so he could air his views about the monarchy without being a “hypocrite”.
Sheen, 55, said the decision had been prompted by researching the history of his native Wales and its relationship with the British state for his 2017 Raymond Williams lecture.

John Lennon
In 1969 Lennon declared he was returning his MBE in a letter to the Queen, which read: "I am returning my MBE as a protest against Britain's involvement in the Nigeria-Biafra thing [civil war], against our support of America in Vietnam and against Cold Turkey slipping down the charts. With love. John Lennon of Bag."

Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders
In 2001, TV comedy duo Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders were each offered OBEs to services for comedy and drama, and turned them down.
Explaining two decades later why she refused the honour, the 66-year-old Absolutely Fabulous star Saunders told Best magazine: "We thought, 'there's a lot of people who deserve these things' and for us to get it sort of made it a mockery. There are people who work for the NHS or do great charity work and we hadn't really done anything. It was silly."

David Bowie
David Bowie has turned down honours on two occasions – once in 2000 when he was offered a Commander of the British Empire (CBE) Honour, and again in 2003 when offered a knighthood.
The English singer-songwriter told the Sun: "I would never have any intention of accepting anything like that. I seriously don't know what it's for. It's not what I spent my life working for."
Pressed on whether he was "anti-monarchy", Bowie said: "I'd only have a serious answer to that if I was living in this country."

George Harrison
In 2000, Beatles singer and lead guitarist George Harrison rejected an OBE.
It isn't clear exactly why he turned it down, but Ray Connelly, a friend of the Beatles, told the Liverpool Echo how Harrison "would have felt insulted" that bassist Paul McCartney was given a knighthood three years earlier.

Roald Dahl
Children's author Roald Dahl turned down an OBE in 1986, primarily because he was holding out for a knighthood, according to drafting services consultancy Awards Intelligence.
The writer died without any honours in 1990, aged 74.

Alfred Hitchcock
Alfred Hitchcock, turned down a CBE in 1962, because, in his view, it did not do justice to his contribution to British culture, the Daily Mail reported.
However, the Psycho and the Birds director did accept a knighthood just four months before his death in 1980.

Nigella Lawson
When TV chef Nigella Lawson passed on an OBE in 2001, she said at the time: "I'm not saving lives and I'm not doing anything other than something I absolutely love."

Stephen Hawking
English theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking was reportedly offered a knighthood in the 1990s, but turned it down.

Paul Weller
Musician Paul Weller rejected a CBE in 2006, with a spokesperson saying at the time: “Paul was surprised and flattered but it wasn’t really for him.”

John Cleese
Monty Python and Fawlty Towers star John Cleese has turned down multiple honours during his career.
He first rejected a CBE in 1996, calling them "silly" and then said no to a peerage by the late Liberal Democrat leader Paddy Ashdown three years later.

Jon Snow
Explaining why he rejected an OBE in 2000 in a documentary two years later called Secrets of the Honours System, Jon Snow said: “I tried to find out why I’d been given it and was unable to get a clear answer or, indeed, to find out who had proposed me."

Benjamin Zephaniah
Prolific poet and anti-colonial activist Benjamin Zephaniah turned down an OBE in 2003, seemingly because he was uncomfortable with becoming an Officer of the British Empire .

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…just as a by the by to David Beckham receiving his knighthood, celebrities who have turned down or returned honours…

Alan Cumming
Scottish actor Alan Cumming, 59, handed back his Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) Honour in January 2023 over what he described as his "misgivings" with being associated with the "toxicity" of the British Empire

Michael Sheen
Welsh actor Michael Sheen said he handed back his OBE in 2017 so he could air his views about the monarchy without being a “hypocrite”.
Sheen, 55, said the decision had been prompted by researching the history of his native Wales and its relationship with the British state for his 2017 Raymond Williams lecture.

John Lennon
In 1969 Lennon declared he was returning his MBE in a letter to the Queen, which read: "I am returning my MBE as a protest against Britain's involvement in the Nigeria-Biafra thing [civil war], against our support of America in Vietnam and against Cold Turkey slipping down the charts. With love. John Lennon of Bag."

Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders
In 2001, TV comedy duo Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders were each offered OBEs to services for comedy and drama, and turned them down.
Explaining two decades later why she refused the honour, the 66-year-old Absolutely Fabulous star Saunders told Best magazine: "We thought, 'there's a lot of people who deserve these things' and for us to get it sort of made it a mockery. There are people who work for the NHS or do great charity work and we hadn't really done anything. It was silly."

David Bowie
David Bowie has turned down honours on two occasions – once in 2000 when he was offered a Commander of the British Empire (CBE) Honour, and again in 2003 when offered a knighthood.
The English singer-songwriter told the Sun: "I would never have any intention of accepting anything like that. I seriously don't know what it's for. It's not what I spent my life working for."
Pressed on whether he was "anti-monarchy", Bowie said: "I'd only have a serious answer to that if I was living in this country."

George Harrison
In 2000, Beatles singer and lead guitarist George Harrison rejected an OBE.
It isn't clear exactly why he turned it down, but Ray Connelly, a friend of the Beatles, told the Liverpool Echo how Harrison "would have felt insulted" that bassist Paul McCartney was given a knighthood three years earlier.

Roald Dahl
Children's author Roald Dahl turned down an OBE in 1986, primarily because he was holding out for a knighthood, according to drafting services consultancy Awards Intelligence.
The writer died without any honours in 1990, aged 74.

Alfred Hitchcock
Alfred Hitchcock, turned down a CBE in 1962, because, in his view, it did not do justice to his contribution to British culture, the Daily Mail reported.
However, the Psycho and the Birds director did accept a knighthood just four months before his death in 1980.

Nigella Lawson
When TV chef Nigella Lawson passed on an OBE in 2001, she said at the time: "I'm not saving lives and I'm not doing anything other than something I absolutely love."

Stephen Hawking
English theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking was reportedly offered a knighthood in the 1990s, but turned it down.

Paul Weller
Musician Paul Weller rejected a CBE in 2006, with a spokesperson saying at the time: “Paul was surprised and flattered but it wasn’t really for him.”

John Cleese
Monty Python and Fawlty Towers star John Cleese has turned down multiple honours during his career.
He first rejected a CBE in 1996, calling them "silly" and then said no to a peerage by the late Liberal Democrat leader Paddy Ashdown three years later.

Jon Snow
Explaining why he rejected an OBE in 2000 in a documentary two years later called Secrets of the Honours System, Jon Snow said: “I tried to find out why I’d been given it and was unable to get a clear answer or, indeed, to find out who had proposed me."

Benjamin Zephaniah
Prolific poet and anti-colonial activist Benjamin Zephaniah turned down an OBE in 2003, seemingly because he was uncomfortable with becoming an Officer of the British Empire .

Sadly, or not really sadly as I’m not a fan of him, David won’t hand his back, he’s been craving that OBE for years

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

100% agree Joey,I ask myself "Why?" and whats she done to be a lady They really don't mean much anymore these awards are just thrown at any Tom,Dick and Harry , there are so many more people who are worthy.

Hi Kazanne, just seen this.

I just think the honours system is more now a farcical mockery of honours really.

Hope you're doing okay Kazanne.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Jon Snow
Explaining why he rejected an OBE in 2000 in a documentary two years later called Secrets of the Honours System, Jon Snow said: “I tried to find out why I’d been given it and was unable to get a clear answer or, indeed, to find out who had proposed me.

he never asked for it, it was the nobles of the realm that wanted him honoured

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Hi Kazanne, just seen this.

I just think the honours system is more now a farcical mockery of honours really.

Hope you're doing okay Kazanne.

I'm good Joey hope you are good.x and yes agree with your point.

[Livia]

Beckham queueing for hours with the public to see the late queen lying in state while other less famous and/or worthy people jumped the queue is enough for me to hope he gets his knighthood. The honours system is part of our heritage and culture. Is it fair and equal? No. But what is?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

Beckham queueing for hours with the public to see the late queen lying in state while other less famous and/or worthy people jumped the queue is enough for me to hope he gets his knighthood. The honours system is part of our heritage and culture. Is it fair and equal? No. But what is?

That is true I forgot about that