[arista]

Originally Posted by Swan

Will she go to a nice safe Islamic country, or Devil Trump's America?

EU.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by arista

EU.

Poland maybe?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Swan

Poland maybe?

For security reasons, she would not say

[Cherie]

Hungary Russia America the worlds her Oyster

[Swan]

Asia too

[Swan]

Oh, and Africa

[Swan]

Ireland it is then

[Crimson Dynamo]

So many options

[Cherie]

The Middle East ...for the Sun

[Cherie]

Transgender people must acknowledge a “period of correction” of rights after the supreme court decision on gender because they “have been lied to over many years” about what their rights actually were, one of the commissioners drawing up the official post-ruling guidance has said.

Speaking at a debate about the repercussions of April’s ruling that “woman” in the Equality Act refers only to a biological woman, Akua Reindorf said trans people had been misled about their rights and there “has to be a period of correction, because other people have rights”.

Reindorf, a barrister who is one of eight commissioners at the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC), who was speaking in a personal capacity, said she believes the fault lay with trans lobbyists.

However, the human rights campaign groups Liberty and Amnesty called on the EHRC to make sure the rights of trans people were properly considered when it draws up guidance for public bodies on how to implement the changed legal landscape.

A director of the trans campaign group TransActual said Reindorf’s remarks were profoundly unhelpful.

Speaking at the event, organised by the London School of Economics law school, Reindorf argued that the impact of the ruling was very clear, condemning what she called “this huge farce with organisations up and down the country wringing their hands and creating working groups and so on, and people in society worrying that they will have nowhere to go to the toilet”.

Asked by an audience member about worries the ruling could reduce the rights of trans people, another panellist, the barrister Naomi Cunningham, said trans people “will have to give way”, adding: “It can’t be helped, I’m afraid.”

Reindorf, speaking next, agreed: “Unfortunately, young people and trans people have been lied to over many years about what their rights are. It’s like Naomi said – I just can’t say it in a more diplomatic way than that. They have been lied to, and there has to be a period of correction, because other people have rights.”

Reindorf said her comments reflected the fact that before the ruling, the law had been commonly misunderstood because pressure groups argued that trans people who self-identified should be treated as their identified sex, when this was in fact just the case for people with a gender recognition certificate (GRC).


The supreme court decided that this mix of different rights made the Equality Act unworkable, said Reindorf, speaking in a personal capacity. She called this “the catalyst for many to catch up, belatedly, with the fact that the law never permitted self-ID in the first place”.

“The fact is that, until now, trans people without GRCs were being grievously misled about their legal rights,” she said. “The correction of self-ID policies and practices will inevitably feel like a loss of rights for trans people. This unfortunate position is overwhelmingly a product of the misinformation which was systematically disseminated over a long period by lobby groups and activists.”

In April, the EHRC released interim, non-statutory advice about how to interpret the ruling, which set out that transgender people should not be allowed to use toilets of the gender they live as, and that in some cases they cannot use toilets of their birth sex. A number of critics have called the advice oversimplistic.

Chiara Capraro, head of gender justice at Amnesty International UK, said: “The EHRC has the duty to uphold the rights of everyone, including all with protected characteristics. We are concerned that it is failing to do so and is unhelpfully pitting the rights of women and trans people against each other.”

Akiko Hart, Liberty’s director, said: “Any updated guidance from the EHRC must respect and uphold the rights of everyone in society. The supreme court’s judgment was very narrow, and there are a lot of very legitimate questions about how it’s implemented that must be carefully considered.”

The Guardian

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

She/He
is helping others leave the UK.

She stated if she went into a pub,
in a men's loo,
she said she could be killed
or raped.

Well killed ..


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well killed ..


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You'd be surprised at how many sadistic personality types are out there that will see Transwomen as an easy target.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You'd be surprised at how many sadistic personality types are out there that will see Transwomen as an easy target.

That’s why I agreed with killed (beat up)


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That’s why I agreed with killed (beat up)


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I agree with you that will be the most common method.

But some will want the power over the Transwoman though, by raping her.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I agree with you that will be the most common method.

But some will want the power over the Transwoman though, by raping her.

Using that theory thousands of guys would be getting raped in lavatories across the country each week


They are not women - one vital female component is missing plus they have the ever present deal breaker the thing no guy wants to see …


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[Oliver_W]

Maybe she now has an inkling about how women feel when males are allowed in their spaces?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You'd be surprised at how many sadistic personality types are out there that will see Transwomen as an easy target.

they see women as an easy target as they are generally bigger and stronger

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

they see women as an easy target as they are generally bigger and stronger

In some cases..


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Using that theory thousands of guys would be getting raped in lavatories across the country each week


They are not women - one vital female component is missing plus they have the ever present deal breaker the thing no guy wants to see …


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I'm not fully up on the Psychology of it all.

But some people are so messed up in the head, that they will torture someone by either sexually assaulting them or raping them, regardless of if they're sexually attracted to the victim or not.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...xual-predators

This article is mainly talking about sexual predators in a work environment, but a lot of what they're saying is what I have heard from other sources in the past about this topic.

And of course... TV Shows.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

they see women as an easy target as they are generally bigger and stronger

That's 100% true.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I agree with you that will be the most common method.

But some will want the power over the Transwoman though, by raping her.

So you're saying a straight man would rape a trans woman?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

So you're saying a straight man would rape a trans woman?

It's interesting how it's somehow okay for that person to brand all "cis" males as a threat to their safety, but women can't apply that to a certain subset of males...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

So you're saying a straight man would rape a trans woman?

You'd be surprised.

It obviously wouldn't be many, but there will be some out there I think.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It's interesting how it's somehow okay for that person to brand all "cis" males as a threat to their safety, but women can't apply that to a certain subset of males...

I think both problems are real tbh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Clown world that they even had to do this