[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

She/He
is helping others leave the UK.

She stated if she went into a pub,
in a men's loo,
she said she could be killed
or raped.

Well killed ..


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well killed ..


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You'd be surprised at how many sadistic personality types are out there that will see Transwomen as an easy target.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You'd be surprised at how many sadistic personality types are out there that will see Transwomen as an easy target.

That’s why I agreed with killed (beat up)


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That’s why I agreed with killed (beat up)


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I agree with you that will be the most common method.

But some will want the power over the Transwoman though, by raping her.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I agree with you that will be the most common method.

But some will want the power over the Transwoman though, by raping her.

Using that theory thousands of guys would be getting raped in lavatories across the country each week


They are not women - one vital female component is missing plus they have the ever present deal breaker the thing no guy wants to see …


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[Oliver_W]

Maybe she now has an inkling about how women feel when males are allowed in their spaces?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You'd be surprised at how many sadistic personality types are out there that will see Transwomen as an easy target.

they see women as an easy target as they are generally bigger and stronger

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

they see women as an easy target as they are generally bigger and stronger

In some cases..


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Using that theory thousands of guys would be getting raped in lavatories across the country each week


They are not women - one vital female component is missing plus they have the ever present deal breaker the thing no guy wants to see …


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I'm not fully up on the Psychology of it all.

But some people are so messed up in the head, that they will torture someone by either sexually assaulting them or raping them, regardless of if they're sexually attracted to the victim or not.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...xual-predators

This article is mainly talking about sexual predators in a work environment, but a lot of what they're saying is what I have heard from other sources in the past about this topic.

And of course... TV Shows.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

they see women as an easy target as they are generally bigger and stronger

That's 100% true.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I agree with you that will be the most common method.

But some will want the power over the Transwoman though, by raping her.

So you're saying a straight man would rape a trans woman?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

So you're saying a straight man would rape a trans woman?

It's interesting how it's somehow okay for that person to brand all "cis" males as a threat to their safety, but women can't apply that to a certain subset of males...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

So you're saying a straight man would rape a trans woman?

You'd be surprised.

It obviously wouldn't be many, but there will be some out there I think.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It's interesting how it's somehow okay for that person to brand all "cis" males as a threat to their safety, but women can't apply that to a certain subset of males...

I think both problems are real tbh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Clown world that they even had to do this

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Clown world that they even had to do this

As if being a nurse isn’t difficult enough these days …


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[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You'd be surprised.

It obviously wouldn't be many, but there will be some out there I think.

That's hardly hard stats, Mock. There will be some... I think.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

That's hardly hard stats, Mock. There will be some... I think.

Are you seriously trying to say that there won't be some cases of Transwomen being sexually assaulted or raped?

There are cases of men (that still identify as men,) that have been victims of these crimes, do you honestly think that there won't be cases of Transwomen being victims too?

And I've already said that the stats wouldn't be very high, but that it definitely will happen.

Is there anything wrong with what I have said there?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Are you seriously trying to say that there won't be some cases of Transwomen being sexually assaulted or raped?

There are cases of men (that still identify as men,) that have been victims of these crimes, do you honestly think that there won't be cases of Transwomen being victims too?

And I've already said that the stats wouldn't be very high, but that it definitely will happen.

Is there anything wrong with what I have said there?

You've said the stats wouldn't be high, without knowing whether there are any stats at all. Heterosexual men are attracted to women, not other men. I'd be interested to know how many transwomen have been raped by straight men.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

You've said the stats wouldn't be high, without knowing whether there are any stats at all. Heterosexual men are attracted to women, not other men. I'd be interested to know how many transwomen have been raped by straight men.

Well because technically even one case of it happening is still a stat.

Obviously the number won't be that high because like you've said yourself, straight men will in general want to go with women, consensual or not if he is an evil individual.

But my point to Zizu was that Transwomen being raped by men has probably happened.

After all if some men molest kids, why would there not be at the very least one case of a Transwoman being a victim of a sex crime?

I'm not saying it's an epidemic, just that it will happen sometimes.

[Vicky.]

Rape isn't always about attraction its about power. I have no doubt some transwomen will be assaulted in male spaces but that's still not a reason to make female spaces a free for all.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well because technically even one case of it happening is still a stat.

Obviously the number won't be that high because like you've said yourself, straight men will in general want to go with women, consensual or not if he is an evil individual.

But my point to Zizu was that Transwomen being raped by men has probably happened.

After all if some men molest kids, why would there not be at the very least one case of a Transwoman being a victim of a sex crime?

I'm not saying it's an epidemic, just that it will happen sometimes.

Yes, one occurrence of a heterosexual make raping a trans woman would be a stat. But you can't provide one. So is it not a stat.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

You've said the stats wouldn't be high, without knowing whether there are any stats at all. Heterosexual men are attracted to women, not other men. I'd be interested to know how many transwomen have been raped by straight men.

Bit optimistic about what men will or won't do there I'm afraid, there are chaps out there who -- to be entirely and completely blunt and save time -- will rape anything they can put their penis in. Women, men, transpeople, kids, dogs...

Some human beings are simply unfathomable creatures and it is unfortunately mostly the male ones.

(This is of course why access to women's spaces MUST not be made easier in any way for biological males; the idea that people won't exploit any loophole is simply wrong, they definitely will and do).

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Bit optimistic about what men will or won't do there I'm afraid, there are chaps out there who -- to be entirely and completely blunt and save time -- will rape anything they can put their penis in. Women, men, transpeople, kids, dogs...

Some human beings are simply unfathomable creatures and it is unfortunately mostly the male ones.

(This is of course why access to women's spaces MUST not be made easier in any way for biological males; the idea that people won't exploit any loophole is simply wrong, they definitely will and do).

They might, they could, they would..... but still no stats.

There are stats of female prisoners being raped in prison by transwomen... they are concrete. Where are the stats for transwomen being raped by heterosexuals? That's what we're discussing. I'm not saying there are no stats, I'm saying, where are they?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

They might, they could, they would..... but still no stats.

There are stats of female prisoners being raped in prison by transwomen... they are concrete. Where are the stats for transwomen being raped by heterosexuals? That's what we're discussing. I'm not saying there are no stats, I'm saying, where are they?

Ironically, the trans-activist insistence on not differentiating will be part of what makes the stats difficult to get. A lot of trans-activists would PREFER that these crimes are recorded as male-on-female, rather than male-on-trans.